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I am a Grocery Clerk, I work with the Grocery Manager who has 40+ Years of Service. Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of respect for the man, but...For instance, when we are stocking just say a pallet of Canned Meat, the backstock I place next to the pallet to take back when we are done stocking, my Grocery Manager will take it and either force it or hide it on the shelf (He doesn't know I see this)...So what would you do if your immediate supervisor or manager was going behind your work doing it against company standards?



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we hide stuff all the time as long as it isn't like a whole case of something. As long as you remember where you put it and place it in its proper home after a couple of days i dont see the big deal....plus this companys standards can be unreal at times so i dont worry about it

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well there's company standards, and then there's reality



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i hide stuff all the time too. it's less work to hide it than it is to manage backstock of it. I was told on my first night or night stock (when i worked it for a week) "Get as much on those shelves as possible."

Hell, the head of our night stock has been known to stock under the shelf.

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We have the same stuff going on at our store. It's such a hard concept, cans are 6 deep. Almost all the grocery crew just has to squeeze that seventh row in. What really bothers me though is the dented cans that get put on the shelf. I'm not talking barely perceptable dents, they put cans almost dented in half on the shelf. We also have someone shoving product under the shelf.



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I know what your going through, I too see this on asst and DMs threw out Kroger, once I was working in the deli that I mastered,seen asst d m take a block of imported white cdr cheese/w date 6 months GOOD and like she owns the place and toss it in the dumpster and said -uck kroger when see toss it,it was one of those BIG blocks, she nevered scaned it out. The meat dept pulls **** when one of those fulltime labor workers there, he's been there 38 years and never done nothing to him. The workers your around can really have a way of making you hard skin. Its not fair to have a job you cannot trust your mangs. If they do it once, they will overly repeat and always degrade your work ethic by there ways. Its not fun or safe to work around labor thats aparently there mines are geard bad, My advice: keep your mouth closed . If you say anything they (the store) will no longer trust you. Thats 60% of kroger labor, its only in krogers stores, no where else, no matter whAT other kroger workers say. Good luck my friend, you will need it now, Ps the asst deil mang that dishonest one, just got the job deil mang, so you see, you can not win .

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i see no problem taking the extra items and hiding it behind the next product over or wherever. we all do it. to take the product back into the backstock area means you are now doing a triangle effect of stocking. that means the crap comes into the store (#1) then most of it is stocked on the shelf (#2) the remaining goes into backstock and needs labor to put it back out again later on (#3).  it is more efficient to eliminate the #3 and do straight from receiving to the sales floor.  saves  a lot (AND I MEAN A LOT) of labor.  sure there is crap that just won't go. that is when the manager may need to adjust the BOH and the MIN on that item.

As a manager, I hate when my staff stocks the shelf with a box of 12 items putting 9 on the shelf and returning 3 to the cooler. Hide it!



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@thedude excellent attitude as a manager. Do you realize the problems hiding product can cause down the road? Miscounted inventory, backstock on other items that otherwise wouldn't be backstock, etc...



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MidAtlanticDivision wrote:

@thedude excellent attitude as a manager. Do you realize the problems hiding product can cause down the road? Miscounted inventory, backstock on other items that otherwise wouldn't be backstock, etc...


No matter how much they try to convince you that it works, you can't expect the real world to operate the way CAO says it should.  If CAO and ELMS worked like they say they do then the shelves would be full all the time, there would be no backstock, and there would be just the right number of cashiers and baggers to take care of the customers.   Well, that's only going to work if the store is run by robots instead of people.  



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@thedude excellent attitude as a manager. Do you realize the problems hiding product can cause down the road? Miscounted inventory, backstock on other items that otherwise wouldn't be backstock, etc...


No matter how much they try to convince you that it works, you can't expect the real world to operate the way CAO says it should.  If CAO and ELMS worked like they say they do then the shelves would be full all the time, there would be no backstock, and there would be just the right number of cashiers and baggers to take care of the customers.    Well, that's only going to work if the customers were robots instead of people


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MidAtlanticDivision wrote:

@thedude excellent attitude as a manager. Do you realize the problems hiding product can cause down the road? Miscounted inventory, backstock on other items that otherwise wouldn't be backstock, etc...


 first - please do not attact my credibility as a manager. you are finding issue on situations that are very small in the big picture. we know where the product is placed.  it is right next door to where it is slotted place neatly in back of another product read nice and neat ready to be slid over next time a stocker comes to that area.  it didnt fall off the face of the kroger earth.  miscounted inventory isn't the end of the world.  the products are still there so the company didnt literally loose it but just temporarily miscategorized as another product (if it actually happens at all under this circumstance).  on the flip side, you might loose sales b/c the item is in the back room.  sure there are way more items in the kroger setting that just wont fit behind other items. i am saying taking them ones and twos isnt the end of the world.  saves time, clutter, effort. (period)   biggrin



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Well at your store, sounds like you know where the hidden product is located. At my store, you could pull probably close to a bascart if not more if hidden product. I have found full cases layed under the shelves, etc. There is no way to keep track of hidden product, at least not in the store I'm at.



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we do not hide nothing in our store because the DMS do not know how to order, so they are most times do not order right amounts of prod.

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