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So I joined the union last week.

Today my supervisor, whose 20+ years of Kroger have turned her into an automaton, basically said "We either do this, or I send you home," in response to my blasphemous questioning of her methods and teachings.

So, if I HAD been sent home -- I wasn't -- would that be a "grievance?"

I'm sorry if I sound ignorant or antisocial or anything like that. It's not that I like to give my supervisor grief, it's that the situation that was taking place I wasn't sure what exactly to do or if I should do it as stated and I was silly enough to question it. And, since I don't know enough about the union yet, I'm not sure what can do what or who can do what when regarding incidents like these.



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no... if you file a grievance on that you'll more than likely be written up for insubordination. 

 

a grievance is either being bullied or pushed around (debatable), not being paid properly, not getting your hours, being set up, 

 

things like that.

 

Only file if you absolutely need to.



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if it's not illegal, immoral or flat the out wrong * just do what your supervisor tells you. 

* and by wrong i mean stuff where you KNOW better & in my experience most of that stuff happens at the service desk or in accounting because of people telling you don't know wtf they're doing or they're sketchy and want to use you to do stuff where they don't want to have an electronic or paper trail connecting them to it. 

in my time i've seen crazy things like refunds or exchanges on alcohol, stolen checks run as payroll so they bypass the system, fraudulent reasons why a till is short, stuff voided off and given away, refunds on things we don't refund because it's an outside vendor's machine and got nothing to do with our store.  you would be shocked and amazed.



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If it goes against the contract in some ways and it can't be resolved with store management on the store level. Do what she said needs to be done. If it jeopardizes your safety or violates some company ethics you can refuse and speak to a manager.



-- Edited by AnonymousCutter on Friday 11th of April 2014 11:41:09 AM

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Amos

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All discipline is grievable. They could try to write you up for "insubordination" but at that point it would plainly be retaliatory.

 

a grievance is a document that alleges your rights - either legal or contractual - were violated. Your contract has guidelines about how to proceed, but it is the union's process for making the employer prove they had a reason for the violation - sending you home included. My experience is that in all but very extreme cases, hourly people - even supervisors - are wrong to send people home or discipline them in any way. ALL discipline should be coming from management. In fact, every time I have EVER had a department head give someone a write up, even one that originated from management, it has been thrown out.



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You Can file a grievance on whatever it is that you feel you were "wronged" a grievance does not have to be only contract violations.  You CAN NOT be written up for filing a grievance! That kind of "tail between your legs" attitude is why you are not strong as you need to be as a whole.  Good Job joining the union last week-that is the only way to strengthen the cause for the Kroger worker's.  As for any that are not in the union...Either join or quit! I am tired of paying your way you free loaders!



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Anonymous wrote:

You Can file a grievance on whatever it is that you feel you were "wronged" a grievance does not have to be only contract violations.  You CAN NOT be written up for filing a grievance! That kind of "tail between your legs" attitude is why you are not strong as you need to be as a whole.  Good Job joining the union last week-that is the only way to strengthen the cause for the Kroger worker's.  As for any that are not in the union...Either join or quit! I am tired of paying your way you free loaders!


 I agree for the most part. The thing about Kroger is that they know our unions are weak and that people are on the fence about joining, but if we had more members joining and letting them know that if there is a strike and you'll walk out will frighten them in the end. Just like in Georgia, if a member of management walks up to you and asks if you're going on strike if the contract gets voted down again you tell them yes even though you're not sure. What they're doing is taking a tally of who will walk out and who will stay. 



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