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I have worked at kroger for 4 yrs now part time. I have a full time job in the evenings that sometimes during the summer months requires me to stay so late that I have to call in that night that I will be a sent the following morning. During the summer it's not uncommon for me to miss upwards of 10 days in 3-4 months. It was understood when I was hired in this would happen. I've never been written up for my attendance. Well now we have a new manager & co managers. I was written up & put on 90 day probation. Since this was understood when I was hired in are the current managers obligated to fol



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Remember: needs of the business



If you're concerned with missing work, tailor your schedule with Kroger so that you won't end up with overlapping shifts with another work. If you work nights at your main job, see if you can get a mid-day 4-6 hour shift. But that's assuming you work at a department with a bit more flexibility (like Front End).


New managers, or even current ones, don't have to give a rat's ass about your life. Your old manager may have had some form of conscience, but if your new one doesn't, then tough luck.


I suggest you find another part time job soon. To Kroger, you and I are expendable.

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Did you explain your situation to your new managers before you called in?



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My full time job I work 3pm-1:30am. i work @ kroger 9am-1pm 4 days a week. Like I stated before in the summer it's very possible for me to be @ work until 4-5am. I'll call in around 8pm that evening that I won't be in the next morning. It's been this way going on 4 yrs. I've tried to explain this to the new management & so have my coworkers. They want to hear nothing of it. With the precedent set & agreed upon for so many yrs can new managers undo this? I'm in the process of talking to my union rep. He wants to file a grievance 



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My full time job I work 3pm-1:30am. i work @ kroger 9am-1pm 4 days a week. Like I stated before in the summer it's very possible for me to be @ work until 4-5am. I'll call in around 8pm that evening that I won't be in the next morning. It's been this way going on 4 yrs. I've tried to explain this to the new management & so have my coworkers. They want to hear nothing of it. With the precedent set & agreed upon for so many yrs can new managers undo this? I'm in the process of talking to my union rep. He wants to file a grievance 


 

Is set precedent in a written, legally-binding contract that has been on file with your human resources department?

 

Word of mouth isn't going to help you out much here.



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Remember: needs of the business



If you're concerned with missing work, tailor your schedule with Kroger so that you won't end up with overlapping shifts with another work. If you work nights at your main job, see if you can get a mid-day 4-6 hour shift. But that's assuming you work at a department with a bit more flexibility (like Front End).


New managers, or even current ones, don't have to give a rat's ass about your life. Your old manager may have had some form of conscience, but if your new one doesn't, then tough luck.


I suggest you find another part time job soon. To Kroger, you and I are expendable.


 You ought to write a book. I always love your posts :)



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Remember: needs of the business



If you're concerned with missing work, tailor your schedule with Kroger so that you won't end up with overlapping shifts with another work. If you work nights at your main job, see if you can get a mid-day 4-6 hour shift. But that's assuming you work at a department with a bit more flexibility (like Front End).


New managers, or even current ones, don't have to give a rat's ass about your life. Your old manager may have had some form of conscience, but if your new one doesn't, then tough luck.


I suggest you find another part time job soon. To Kroger, you and I are expendable.


 You ought to write a book. I always love your posts :)


 

Ah, thank you. If I didn't know any better, and if I was a member of management, I'd be filing an assault charge against you with HR. But, hey, I can think for myself.



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My full time job I work 3pm-1:30am. i work @ kroger 9am-1pm 4 days a week. Like I stated before in the summer it's very possible for me to be @ work until 4-5am. I'll call in around 8pm that evening that I won't be in the next morning. It's been this way going on 4 yrs. I've tried to explain this to the new management & so have my coworkers. They want to hear nothing of it. With the precedent set & agreed upon for so many yrs can new managers undo this? I'm in the process of talking to my union rep. He wants to file a grievance 


 How old are you? If you get off at 5 am, take a two hour nap suck it up and get to Kroger.

I am 51 years old and work night shift grocery. On wednesday nights I play golf from 6 pm to 8;30 pm. get to work at 9 pm, work til 5;30 am. Then i go home, sleep 4 hours, back at the golf course at 11 am, grt home around 4 grab some food shower and back to work at 8 pm.

My motto is "I can sleep when I'm dead".



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You're more than welcome do that. I'm not that dumb. My full time job is a job that requires a full sleep. Otherwise I could endanger 100's of thousands of people. I don't work at 2 grocery stores 



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You've been lucky so far.  I don't know of any job that would do that.  You say you call in 10 times in 3 months?  Maybe it's time to give those hours back to someone who can work them.  If nobody can come in and cover your shift those hours are wasted hours someone else could have used to feed their family. I think it's kinda selfish to take the hours just in case you MIGHT work them.



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Your entitled to your opinion. The department has about 30-35 hrs a week they don't use

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Your entitled to your opinion. The department has about 30-35 hrs a week they don't use


You're missing the point.  They have to find someone that will answer their phone and agree to come into work.  Until then the other employees get to pick up the slack.  These are the employees that are already doing the work of two people.  You know how Kroger is.

 

I have 16 hours this week.  We have a cashier that calls in repeatedly.  I wish she would just leave.  Those hours should be given to an employee who wants to work, is dependable, and puts their low paying part time job ahead of personal problems. 



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i would have fired you a long time ago

sucks for your co workers



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Well, obviously Funkfry doesn't like the answers he's hearing, and would rather hear a "don't worry, you're doing excellent, good job, poor you" pity party statement.


Welp, bud, sorry but you're not gonna hear that here. Honestly, it's your job. WE don't have to work nights and then work another job early in the morning. After all, it's your choice.


I believe we are done here. Obviously, he's adamant about his "opinion" being infallible, and that his convenience takes top priority over what his secondary job requires of him.


Like I said, if you don't like the stuff you're hearing here, then be ready to find another job.



Endanger the lives of hundreds of thousands of people? Please. Don't make that sound dramatic or even exaggerate. If it were true, you wouldn't be with Kroger.



-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Saturday 26th of July 2014 03:00:52 PM

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My pay is well above what a department head makes. I work at Kroger as a way to spend my mornings. My concern isn't over keeping my job. A job like Kroger is a dime a dozen. Me missing time there doesn't affect anyone except me. They schedule extra people anyways & they're still short on using all the hours. My only question is pointless now. The union is doing their job. It's what I pay them for. Thanks for the help & for the people who want to be rude you know where to go

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Ok but here's a question for you.

What happens on the days when you decide you just can't suffer through a 4 hour shift and decide to call in?

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I'm not there so I don't know. It's not suffering through a 4 hr shift. It's not sleeping & risking putting myslef in a situation where I could make a mental error on real job

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My pay is well above what a department head makes. I work at Kroger as a way to spend my mornings. My concern isn't over keeping my job. A job like Kroger is a dime a dozen. Me missing time there doesn't affect anyone except me. They schedule extra people anyways & they're still short on using all the hours. My only question is pointless now. The union is doing their job. It's what I pay them for. Thanks for the help & for the people who want to be rude you know where to go


Since your union rep wants to file a grievance make sure you share the above with him.  How you are not concerned about keeping your dime a dozen job.  He may tell you where to go LOL! 



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My pay is well above what a department head makes. I work at Kroger as a way to spend my mornings. My concern isn't over keeping my job. A job like Kroger is a dime a dozen. Me missing time there doesn't affect anyone except me. They schedule extra people anyways & they're still short on using all the hours. My only question is pointless now. The union is doing their job. It's what I pay them for. Thanks for the help & for the people who want to be rude you know where to go


 

Then you shouldn't be so desperate to hold on to this job.

 

 

Get off your high horse and come down to reality world.



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What do you do at your "real job"?



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 What do you do at your "real job"?


He said something about the safety of over 100,000 people and he has to work late in the summer so I was thinking maybe he drives one of those mosquito spraying trucks! 



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Remember: needs of the business



If you're concerned with missing work, tailor your schedule with Kroger so that you won't end up with overlapping shifts with another work. If you work nights at your main job, see if you can get a mid-day 4-6 hour shift. But that's assuming you work at a department with a bit more flexibility (like Front End).


New managers, or even current ones, don't have to give a rat's ass about your life. Your old manager may have had some form of conscience, but if your new one doesn't, then tough luck.


I suggest you find another part time job soon. To Kroger, you and I are expendable.


 

To Kroger, EVERYONE is expendable.

I will never forget, for the rest of my life, my manager telling me "You could quit now and we would be fine with that" when they wrote me up.

Knocked the wind out of me for sure. Now I see this only as a job. Why become emotionally invested when those you work for don't give a damn?

They meant it in more of a "We would leave in a good-standing relationship up to this point" message, but the wording...wow. And even though I know what it was meant to be I also was able to recognize that the words were also literal. 

And I'm in Front End. I can only imagine what other departments have to go through. But at least they don't have to get the damn carts from the parking lot.



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I can only imagine what other departments have to go through. But at least they don't have to get the damn carts from the parking lot.

 

Well... our Deli ALWAYS has someone new. They've got the second highest turnover rate after the Front End. Probably because of all the BS tasks like having to serve a customer one minute before closing when 99% of the equipment had already been cleaned and stowed, along with ungrateful managers.

 

Shoot, one of the people that the Deli lost is their department manager. Thankfully he's moved on.



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Remember: needs of the business



If you're concerned with missing work, tailor your schedule with Kroger so that you won't end up with overlapping shifts with another work. If you work nights at your main job, see if you can get a mid-day 4-6 hour shift. But that's assuming you work at a department with a bit more flexibility (like Front End).


New managers, or even current ones, don't have to give a rat's ass about your life. Your old manager may have had some form of conscience, but if your new one doesn't, then tough luck.


I suggest you find another part time job soon. To Kroger, you and I are expendable.


 

To Kroger, EVERYONE is expendable.

I will never forget, for the rest of my life, my manager telling me "You could quit now and we would be fine with that" when they wrote me up.

Knocked the wind out of me for sure. Now I see this only as a job. Why become emotionally invested when those you work for don't give a damn?

They meant it in more of a "We would leave in a good-standing relationship up to this point" message, but the wording...wow. And even though I know what it was meant to be I also was able to recognize that the words were also literal. 

And I'm in Front End. I can only imagine what other departments have to go through. But at least they don't have to get the damn carts from the parking lot.


 Does it shock nobody else that Kroger wonders why they have high turnover? If a supervisor tells you something that implies quitting, then obviously they don't care to have you there. When the store manager or HR manager interviewed you, I'll bet they said something like, 'Kroger is not a dead end job. You can have a career here if you work hard etc etc.' Well if we're such an asset to you, then please treat us with respect. You're sure as hell never going to be in Costco or Aldi's league if you think of us as liabilities. 

 



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Kroger has a high turnover rate compared to other places due to the following (warning, list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it!):


-poor benefits
-weak union
-low pay
-low wage increases
-unbearable levels of management
-overbearing, redundant corporate policies
-weak morale



Of course, it's a "difficult" job and there are of course going to be large demands of you because it's retail. However, let's be honest, unless you're gonna become one of them (management), it's just a dead end job that has no promising options for you.


Meanwhile, your colleagues in Costco are paid 2-3 times more than you do for half the work, and they're all smiles and happy.

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Kroger has a high turnover rate compared to other places due to the following (warning, list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it!):


-poor benefits
-weak union
-low pay
-low wage increases
-unbearable levels of management
-overbearing, redundant corporate policies
-weak morale



Of course, it's a "difficult" job and there are of course going to be large demands of you because it's retail. However, let's be honest, unless you're gonna become one of them (management), it's just a dead end job that has no promising options for you.


Meanwhile, your colleagues in Costco are paid 2-3 times more than you do for half the work, and they're all smiles and happy.


Make that: overbearing, redundant, inconsistent, and often directly conflicting corporate policies

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Kroger has a high turnover rate compared to other places due to the following (warning, list is incomplete, you can help by expanding it!):


-poor benefits
-weak union
-low pay
-low wage increases
-unbearable levels of management
-overbearing, redundant corporate policies
-weak morale


       -micro management (although that might be 'unbearable levels')
       -poor communication between departments and within departments on supervisory and managerial levels
       -multiple tasks assigned or expected not meeting the labor hours or hands-on labor numbers necessary to undergo or complete the tasks 
       -trusting a computer to tell management or supervisors when to schedule labor rather than allowing a human being to make those decisions
       -trusting a computer to tell you how fast our cashiers should be working, how much they should be working, and when they should be working
       -trusting a computer to try to decide and / or predict when your check-out lanes should be open or closed
       -...although I think most of that would fall under 'weak morale'.



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" Does it shock nobody else that Kroger wonders why they have high turnover? If a supervisor tells you something that implies quitting, then obviously they don't care to have you there. When the store manager or HR manager interviewed you, I'll bet they said something like, 'Kroger is not a dead end job. You can have a career here if you work hard etc etc.' Well if we're such an asset to you, then please treat us with respect. You're sure as hell never going to be in Costco or Aldi's league if you think of us as liabilities. 

 


 Reminds me of some of the quotes i have seen in the managers office and other place through out the store about "hard work/opportunities". Sounds real nice but its just empty words when you see daily what happens in a store.

As far as the list goes and needed a computer program to tell you what to do. I remember a few months back when i started they werent using e schedule yet  the manager would make the schedule for the department. It could be done without the need of a program but now its crazy seeing the how to hours work out (random).

Also i agree if you arent going after a management postion in kroger its just a dead end road



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