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Today I finally reached my limit with my bi-tc-h of a boss.
This is the woman who claims "20 years" with Kroger.
The same woman who earlier in the year told me "You could leave now and we'd be fine with it."
This woman is a terrible Front End Manager. She sucks. Plain and simple. She should NOT be in a management position; or, at the very least, should not be in the position that she is now. I don't know if she's co-cky and thinks she has Kroger's version of tenure, or she thinks that she is allowed to run how she wants to run, or what. Maybe she really IS just a bi-tc-h. If she were male I'd call her an as-sho-le. 

Few examples:
We're busy. I'm bagging. 
Got some oranges to go back to produce.
Produce isn't that far away, but we're busy.
She's standing at the front of the store where customers come out of the register aisles.
I go up to her and tell her I can't get away from bagging, but have the oranges.
Her response "Take them to produce."
My response "I can't get away from bagging."
She repeats "Take them to produce."
I sigh internally, go back to the register, put the oranges underneath with the bags.
Thankfully, a fellow courtesy clerk ( ' bagger ' ) came along a few moments later allowing me to do the go-back.

She handled it incorrectly. This is a woman who is dead set on baggers staying at the register.
This is a woman who has complained about gobacks.
She should have taken the SINGLE oranges from me (they were in a mesh bag) and taken care of it herself or handed it off to someone, or at least held it for me until I could have gotten to it. Instead, she acted like a damn statue.

Example #2:
We're a busy store. So we easily empty our bag boxes that are underneath the register.
Where to put the empty boxes when we're busy?
How about the bascart of the shopping carts full of gobacks.
So I did. 
And she got on to me about it, telling me they should have gone back to the bailer.
Well sweetheart that's nice and all and certainly correct but we were too busy and I couldn't get away to the back of the store.
And had I *tried* you would have gotten on to me for doing it. And there was no other place to put things.

Example #3:
Today she's at a register bagging for a cashier.
It's late morning.
We have two other courtesy clerks at registers as baggers.
There's nowhere for me to openly go to bag.
So I go up to gobacks and start to grab a six pack of beer, which I know is close by, take like two minutes to take there and get back, if less than that.
She calls to me across the store. 
I don't understand what she's saying because of the noise of the store.
I go up to her and ask her what she wanted (as nicely as I can - inside, I'm groaning).
She says that I can bag there if I want to bag, but then proceeds to tell me THAT I DON'T LISTEN.
Yea, I don't listen BECAUSE I CAN'T F@#$KING HEAR YOU. AND YOU KNOW THAT. BUT YOU STILL ACT LIKE A TOTAL BI-TC-H.

Today, she basically took me aside and told me that she didn't give me my break when I needed it because she "couldn't find me".
Well, I know damn good and well that I was at the registers for the first hour, and only left the bagging area three times.
Once for a floral goback which took less than five minutes, once to use the restroom and once to take cardboard to the bailer.

She is telling me that she "can't find me" when I know for a fact that she wasn't there two-thirds of the time that I was actually bagging, and I know she was there when she WAS there because I SAW HER THERE. And, point of fact, she had AMPLE time to tell me to go to break before I reached the parking lot time for my particular scheduling. SHE is the one who is supposed to TELL ME to go on break, yet here she is telling me she "couldn't find me" despite the fact that at least 30 minutes went by when she could have told me to go on break. Tells me not to do go backs anymore. Fine with me you stupid ... I don't care if ten carts pile up, I'm not touching them. The ten carts reflect YOUR poor management, NOT me as a bagger. I hope the store manager steps on your toes every day there are four or more carts or less. I hope the store takes the shrink out of your paycheck. You SUCK as a boss. STOP making up BS about me when I know DAMN good and well what is going on and I KNOW that you know.

I could go on but this woman is just a pain in the ass.
I am not the only employee who hates her and not the only employee who knows her as aggressive.

The parking lot...the bagging...the price checks...even go-backs...I can handle all of that.
But I can't work for an employer that won't respect me or listen to me as an employee.
This woman is "her way or the highway". So I'm looking for the turn lane.
I thought Dairy Queen was the worst job I ever held when the Indian woman in charge told me "You work for me, you have no rights!".
Sadly, my Front End Manager has surpassed that woman in disrespect and total disregard for the feelings and work of her employees.

So, "long story short" (god, I hate that phrase...) today I approached the Drug / GM head and asked her how to find out what's posted internally.
She said the only thing she really knows is that it has to go into writing to the HR person of the store.
Which I plan to do next week.
"To whom it may concern, I would like to change departments upon available opening" or something like that. She wasn't sure.

I then approached the HMIC (head man in charge -- the guy whose name is on all the receipts, the store manager-manager, my boss's boss).
He said that there *should* be something posted internally upstairs. But I've never seen it.

He asked me if I'd gotten a new shirt yet. 
I coughed in my head and dodged the question---it's been two months since the last time that HR woman was asked about that, and I have given up ever seeing a second shirt (despite the fact that all the new employees seem to have no problem obtaining one...). 
He said that as far as he knows there should be something posted on a board upstairs.
I sort of pussed out and said that I hadn't really looked, but that I would.

I have got to get out of Front End or leave Kroger.
I can take the crap in the parking lot, I can deal with the stress of bagging, the rude customers, the nice ones.
There are only one or two things I can't deal with:

* The idea of bagging for two years to go from the meager $7.25 an hour I make now to $7.40. Two years for a 15 cent raise as a bagger? Screw you Kroger.
* This woman as my boss. She is a terrible boss, I don't know what bug is up her ass but it's near her stomach by now as deep as it's burrowed into her organs.

So, I'm deli-bound. Or grocery-bound. Or anything-bound.
I also went and talked to the manager at the local Food Depot which is three blocks from my house.
I told him I'd picked up an application and that I would be turning it in tomorrow. Which I will.
He said it may be after Christmas before he could really take a look at it, but I told him in no uncertain terms that it didn't matter to me if he put it on file or needed an opening tomorrow, I just wanted to have an application in. I briefly described to him Front End's set up and the horror in his eyes could easily be seen. I don't think that even as the manager of one of Kroger's local competitors that he knows what goes on in Front End at our store. Probably few do. I would bet Ingles would have some idea but only because they're a little larger than Food Depot and would deal with similar "issues".

I don't know what 2015 will bring for me, but I know that I have to think of my mental, emotional and physical health.
And to me, while the decision has been a difficult one, and I've procrastinated due to various reasons, the only way that I can improve all three areas is to either leave Front End in Kroger for a different department or find another job that (hopefully) pays better, (hopefully) gives more respect and (hopefully) has better hours.

This woman...gawd....how she EVER became a manager, I don't know.
Maybe she ate the previous ones. I wonder if there would be missing persons in the areas she has worked.
She is seriously a total bit-ch and makes Front End at our particular Kroger one of the worst working experiences I and others have had.
The turnover rate there isn't necessarily because of Front End. It's partly because of who runs it.

RESPECT YOUR EMPLOYEES OR THEY WON'T RESPECT YOU. 



-- Edited by FrontEndSlave on Friday 12th of December 2014 04:26:30 PM



-- Edited by FrontEndSlave on Friday 12th of December 2014 04:30:42 PM

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Good. Hope you can get a job in another department. 

 

But just so you know, deli, especially if you are a closer, is a LOT more work than front-end. And meat/seafood, during the day and morning, is a LOT more work than front end.

 

Produce at night might be the easiest job. See if you can get that.



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Good. Hope you can get a job in another department. 

 

But just so you know, deli, especially if you are a closer, is a LOT more work than front-end. And meat/seafood, during the day and morning, is a LOT more work than front end.

 

Produce at night might be the easiest job. See if you can get that.


 

I am no stranger to hard work, my friend.
I think the fact that I have probably pushed more than five tons of shopping carts since starting in March shows that.
As does the fact that I have put up with nearly slipping and falling in the shopping cart foyer on rainy days.
Or getting told that I was to come in and do gobacks but have ended up bagging.
Getting phone calls at 9 a.m. asking if I can come in that day in less than three hours from now.
Bicycling to work three miles one way in the rain.
Bringing shopping carts in 11 at a time up a hill.
Bagging $500 or more orders.

Hard work is no stranger to me nor am I afraid of it.
I do not mind getting dirty.
I do not mind getting greasy.
I have a washing machine and a shower at home for those.
I just want a little more respect as an employee.
I have come to the conclusion that this is not going to happen given my current boss.
My Floor Supervisors, and my Front End Associates, they at least try. And usually do.
Those co-workers...for the most part, many of them are okay and willing to work with us as courtesy clerks.
But I can not stand working for this woman as her title of Front End Manager for much longer.
Her aggression, her body language, her lack of people skills. It is difficult. 

Deli would be a ride on a merry-go-round compared to Front End.
And the best part is, if I landed in, say, deli, as you describe, I would rarely have to bag.
I have rarely seen someone from deli come up and bag.
No more shopping carts.
Sure, I'd have to buy non-slip shoes.
Yea, I'd have to hose down the floor.
Yep, I'd have to deal with customers while trying not to let the chicken burn to a crisp or the batter fry the popcorn chicken into inedible ashes.

Produce? Better learn the six types of apples we offer.
Dairy? Hope you don't freeze.
Drug/GM? Good luck trying to stock a lipstick or a fingernail polish that doesn't seem to have a place on the shelf.

But ALL of these.......will be better than Front End.
I don't care where I land internally as much as I care about feeling better about myself as an employee of this company.

And that won't be happening as long as I am in Front End.



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You were told to go ahead and take the oranges to produce.
You should have done what you were told.

You say your supervisor was bagging and you couldn't find a lane to bag for.
Did it occur to you that you should have taken over for her.
Believe it or not, she has other things to do.

As for transferring to a different department, don't bother.
It's not the front end that is the problem, it's you.

I've worked with a lot of people like you.
They think they know everything about their job from day one.
Ask them to do something and they take it as some sort of challenge to their intelligence.

Just clock in. Do what your supervisor tells you to do. Clock out and go home.
You seem to think of every minute of your life as a mini drama.
Chill out man it's just a job!

Get used to it. It's the same crap everywhere.
Your going to have a heart attack before you're 25.

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Your manager asked if you had a second shirt yet.
You don't tell him no.
Maybe he could have done something for you.
But then you would have one less thing to complain about.

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You were told to go ahead and take the oranges to produce.
You should have done what you were told.

Apparently you missed the part about "we were busy".
And you also seemed to have missed the parts where I have written about getting mixed signals from this woman.
One day she doesn't like baggers doing gobacks, another day she wants you to do gobacks.
I am 100% sure if I had left bagging that particular day given the business we were doing that she would have pulled me aside and told me I did wrong.



You say your supervisor was bagging and you couldn't find a lane to bag for.
Did it occur to you that you should have taken over for her.
Believe it or not, she has other things to do.

 

She has bagged before and cashiered before.
It is part of her job as Front End Manager.

If you are a manager you should expect to do the job of those underneath you.
If I am a manager at McDonalds I should be willing to clean toilets and sweep floors as much as listen to customer complaints and place inventory orders.
The only thing I have not seen this woman do is go out and grab carts.
Ever.
At the time, the bagging was almost complete, we had two other lanes open both with baggers.
The light for this cashier was turned off and no other customer was waiting in the line at the time.
I had every reason to believe that after that customer the lane would be closed.




As for transferring to a different department, don't bother.
It's not the front end that is the problem, it's you.

Oh la dee friggin' dah, great, it's another -- same one? -- Anon fan of mine.
An anon fan who has no idea what our Front End is like or what i go through with this woman.
I am not the only employee who avoids her entirely or does not like her due to her attitude.



I've worked with a lot of people like you.
They think they know everything about their job from day one.
Ask them to do something and they take it as some sort of challenge to their intelligence.

Hey shi-thead, I don't think this is a challenge for anything.
I bust my ass at my job and am one of the hardest workers in Front End.
Even had a co-worker tell me yesterday I take the job too seriously.
I bring more than half-a-ton, average, of carts in for a single one-hour shift.
I bag quickly and contentiously. The customers appreciate it, too.
When I do a go-back or a price check I literally run to do it to get back to the register as quickly as possible.

You are NO ONE and in NO PLACE to tell me how I approach my work.
My work ethic is higher than yours and I can say that without fear of bragging based simply on your own remarks.
As they would say in the UK, "Bugger off." 



Just clock in. Do what your supervisor tells you to do. Clock out and go home.
You seem to think of every minute of your life as a mini drama.
Chill out man it's just a job!


A job that is difficult to do because my manager is a jerk.


Get used to it. It's the same crap everywhere.
Your going to have a heart attack before you're 25.


 

I made it past 25 a long time ago and am doing just fine.
Now why don't you go check and see if deli needs a hand making the chicken fingers. Arsehole.



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Your manager asked if you had a second shirt yet.
You don't tell him no.
Maybe he could have done something for you.
But then you would have one less thing to complain about.


 

Oh good another anon fan.

I didn't tell him "no".
I told him "not yet".
And the last time someone complained to him about me not having a second shirt, the HR lady got in my face about it because she was frustrated that he had gone to her about someone complaining about the shirt.

The last thing I want right now is to have her on my ass again because he's gone to her a second time and asked about me having a second shirt.
I know she'd do the same thing.
Odd how she told me that time a few months ago that they were on 'back order' and she would 'let me know' or 'come to me' when they were at the store, yet all these new employees have clean new blue shirts.



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Few examples:
We're busy. I'm bagging. 
Got some oranges to go back to produce.
Produce isn't that far away, but we're busy.
She's standing at the front of the store where customers come out of the register aisles.
I go up to her and tell her I can't get away from bagging, but have the oranges.
Her response "Take them to produce."
My response "I can't get away from bagging."
She repeats "Take them to produce."
I sigh internally, go back to the register, put the oranges underneath with the bags.
Thankfully, a fellow courtesy clerk ( ' bagger ' ) came along a few moments later allowing me to do the go-back.


 Yes, you can get away from bagging to do a go back.  When you finish waiting on the current customer, you stop and take the oranges back.  Baggers are suppose to rotate lanes anyway.  When  you're through with one order and you see a lane that doesn't have a bagger and the groceries are piling up, you move over to that lane.  If all the baggers are rotating lanes properly, then someone should  be able to take your place while you're taking the oranges back to produce.

As far as moving to another department goes, I would not move to deli.  All you're doing all day is waiting on customers and slicing meat and cheese.  Bakery is a good spot because you don't have the constant barrage of customers like deli does and you're constantly doing production so the day goes by really fast.  If you work in meat, produce, dairy, bread, or frozen you're basically going to be opening boxes and putting stuff on shelves or in bins.  If you work in a high volume store, there will be plenty of work to keep you busy.  Otherwise, you may have to hunt for something to do.  



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You bag contentiously.
Does that mean you start an argument with customers.

My work ethic is very high.
It's possible to bust a** for 8 hours and then go home and forget about it.
That's why I say it's just a job.

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Good. Hope you can get a job in another department. 

 

But just so you know, deli, especially if you are a closer, is a LOT more work than front-end. And meat/seafood, during the day and morning, is a LOT more work than front end.

 

Produce at night might be the easiest job. See if you can get that.


Eh, I don't know about working produce at night being the easiest job. More than once, management has come to me to ask if I'd help out and close produce when the closer called in or did a NCNS and I always did as a favor to management. It's a lot of work, especially if the morning crew regularly neglects to get rid of all their cans of trash and boxes, and leaves the prep room in disarray when you come in in the afternoon. Walking in to a wrecked prep room/produce cooler will cost you time, and then, depending on how the sales floor looks, you could easily lose more time there too if the morning crew failed to fill holes and have the fast movers well stocked. Frankly, I don't know how it is at every Kroger store, obviously, but morning crew tends to leave a big mess and fails to leave the floor in decent shape for the evening people. If you leave the department in equally bad shape though when you close, you definitely hear about it the next day.

It's a heck of a lot of work keeping the sales floor stocked and fresh & full, and the conditioning at the end of the night is tedious and lengthy, as it's not just stuff like the salad wall that needs conditioning, but usually Nature's Market too. Getting rid of the trash (morning crew crams so much into the cans that unless you're an extremely strong guy, good luck lifting one of those cans on your own without pulling a muscle) and boxes (don't be surprised if you have to make a bale in the process) takes time too, on top of having to organize and clean the produce prep room and cooler, which includes spraying down the floors and wiping down surfaces. Don't forget too having to drop what you're doing to assist the front end as a surge checker (if trained), bagging and cart round-ups. Oh, and then there's helping customers at floral once the person that is manning the floral counter leaves for the night. That falls to produce as well.

Working front end is a lot easier than closing produce, in my opinion. If you have a bad set of co-managers too, the closing co-manager will make your life as closer in produce miserable because you're supposed to walk the sales floor with the co at night and the two of you go down a checklist, both on the sales floor and in the prep room. If you have a picky co, what you do will never be good enough.

Personal opinion, again, is that front end is the easiest part of the store to work in. That doesn't mean the work itself is easy, but compared to produce, grocery and drug/gm? There's a lot less responsibility.



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Come work grocery for us, haven't been able to find a decent hire in 5 years.

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You passed 25 a long time ago and still a bagger at Kroger.
No wonder you have such an attitude.
Jus another of the great overexcited and under employed.
What useless degree do you have?

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That should have read over educated.
My bad.

What do you expect from a 9th grade drop out.

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Night crew, GM, go do that. I think your real problem is people. Not too many of those at night.

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You bag contentiously.
Does that mean you start an argument with customers.

My work ethic is very high.
It's possible to bust a** for 8 hours and then go home and forget about it.
That's why I say it's just a job.


 

I really don't care what your work ethic is at the moment.
YOU - or some other anon - questioned MY work ethic and I responded in kind.
It's good that you have a high work ethic. I have a high work ethic too.
It's the reason I have not left this job yet.
That, and the fact that I am an optimist and keep hoping things will get better.
Also apparently I'm an idiot who lets himself get taken advantage of sometimes as well.



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You passed 25 a long time ago and still a bagger at Kroger.
No wonder you have such an attitude.
Jus another of the great overexcited and under employed.
What useless degree do you have?


 

Oh hello my anon friend, good to see you again, nice to see you are in the same as-shole mode as usual.

My current circumstances are none of your damn business. That's my official response to you and it will stay my official response.
My unofficial response is that you are a dick and have no idea what I am going through outside of work, and you will not because I will not tell you. Because you are a dick. "Useless" degree. Uh-huh. Like I said, I'm not going to get in to it with you. You sound like an ass. Actually you sound like a dick. But I guess if you are creative enough you can be both a dick and an ass, which is good, because eventually it will get to a point where I will tell you to go phuck yourself.

Merry Christmas.



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Try and get in with grocery night crew. Sure it's physical, and you'll have to learn where a lot of stuff is stocked, but it's super chill. In my store, we can listen to music for 6 hours of our shift until the store opens. We can wear hoodies or whatever during those 6 hours. As long as you do your job, you won't have any manager trying to probe you. Even if the load isn't done by then end of your shift, as long as you stocked 60+ cases per hour, you can leave without ever getting in trouble.

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Delb, actually I would not mind grocery if they had an opening, because ten months as a courtesy clerk I've learned where at least 40% (if not a little more...) of the items in the store "go". Sure I can't always tell you the aisle number off the top of my head, but if I have to do go-backs I can empty even a large cart out within 10-20 minutes, if left alone and not called back up to bag.

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You do know it's several different anons right. Not just one person.

I like what the other one said. That you're a man child. 

All you ever do is complain. You're life must be so damn boring. If you think you're a hard worker and a good employee.. well you're probably not from what you tell us.

You're suppose to follow your supervisior or managers directions. If you feel like you should be doing something.. ASK them if you should be. Or try to ask them what they need. Supervisors don't need to be bagging. They're busy. You don't know what they have to do since its not your job.

Go backs are only important if the supervisor asks you to do them. I only do them if I'm asked. Or when I'm closing. Perishables do come first before bagging though. I always try to do them after an order. If there are no baggers then the cashier can bag for themselves. Unless the supervisor says no.

The thing I have learned with this job is you suck up to the higher ups. Well that's any job. You never argue with them. There is no point unless they really did something bad.

Also this is ****ty job. Grow up. Because if you find this stressful then life isn't gonna be good for you.



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You do know it's several different anons right. Not just one person.

 Kind of tough when they don't have the balls or intelligence to register.

I like what the other one said. That you're a man child. 

I really don't give a crap what you or the other anons think. I really don't.
I'm an adult. Sorry to disappoint you. 


All you ever do is complain.
 

That's part of the reason this forum is here, junior.
For us lowly employees to whine, bit-ch, complain and otherwise let off steam that we can't let off while at work.

For the most part it's a harmless (primarily) text-based medium that The Kroger Company couldn't give a damn about.
If you don't like it, no one is forcing you or the other anons to be here and lurk or respond.


You're life must be so damn boring. If you think you're a hard worker and a good employee.. well you're probably not from what you tell us.

It's not boring, I just work for as-sholes.
Well, one as-shole at least. 
And I am a good employee because I actually give a damn about my job.
I make the mistake of caring, and in this company that's something you shouldn't be doing.
That's the message Kroger is sending, even if it's unintentional.
My Front End sucks because the person in charge thinks she has a cushy job and doesn't do what is needed when needed.
And the feeling falls down through the Front End Floor Supervisors who are terrorized by dips, ELMS, Que-Visions and other stupid things.
"We don't have enough carts. Need some help outside."
"We can't spare baggers"
(then what will your shoppers put their inventory in?)

"We've got ten carts of gobacks!"
"We can't spare baggers"
(ten hours later another four carts have joined)

Etc. Etc. Etc.
Should have seen it the time before when EBT went down.
Literally 20 carts of gobacks. I posted a photo.
And it happened because, as one of my Front End FS said to me, "Not everybody was on the same page."
Why weren't they all on the same page? This store has been open long enough that something should have been done.
Bring in other departments *if you have to* but get a courtesy clerk to work on those gobacks. Even a single one could take out two or three carts in an hour.

This is what I deal with. If I complain about it, it's because I can. This is an open forum for open discussion.
Right now, for example, I'm discussing the fact that you appear to be an as-shole.

 

You're suppose to follow your supervisior or managers directions.

Oh but I do.
But when one supervisor says or wants one thing one day and another supervisor wants or says something else the next...
Then there's my Front End Manager who flip-flops so much on so many things that we may as well be connected to an alternate dimension Kroger through a wormhole, that way she can get both of what she wants at the same time.



If you feel like you should be doing something.. ASK them if you should be. Or try to ask them what they need. Supervisors don't need to be bagging. They're busy. You don't know what they have to do since its not your job.

At our store the supervisors usually DO end up bagging because we never have ENOUGH baggers on Front End. Gee, whose fault is that?

Go backs are only important if the supervisor asks you to do them. I only do them if I'm asked. Or when I'm closing. Perishables do come first before bagging though. I always try to do them after an order. If there are no baggers then the cashier can bag for themselves. Unless the supervisor says no.

We have so much shrink that the store must have an open checking account just to cover it.
I can't tell you how many times I have found produce in go-back carts or by a register.



The thing I have learned with this job is you suck up to the higher ups. Well that's any job. You never argue with them. There is no point unless they really did something bad.


I suck up to no one, junior.
I do my job because I have pride in my work and a high work ethic. Not because some jackass might promote me later.
I don't play politics. Never have, and never will. That disgusts me.
If you can't be recognized for the quality of your work and the fact that you are trying to get the job done in the best way that you can, then the job is not worth the effort in the first place. 



Also this is ****ty job. Grow up. Because if you find this stressful then life isn't gonna be good for you.


 
Well right now laughing at you with this response is helping to relieve stress, so thanks.



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Your manager asked if you had a second shirt yet.
You don't tell him no.
Maybe he could have done something for you.
But then you would have one less thing to complain about.


 

Oh good another anon fan.

I didn't tell him "no".
I told him "not yet".
And the last time someone complained to him about me not having a second shirt, the HR lady got in my face about it because she was frustrated that he had gone to her about someone complaining about the shirt.

The last thing I want right now is to have her on my ass again because he's gone to her a second time and asked about me having a second shirt.
I know she'd do the same thing.
Odd how she told me that time a few months ago that they were on 'back order' and she would 'let me know' or 'come to me' when they were at the store, yet all these new employees have clean new blue shirts.


 Ok, I'm confused now.  You didn't tell him "no",  you told him "not yet".  Was this in your head?  Or did you actually speak to him?  Your first post you wrote that you "coughed in your head and dodged the question".

Now I want to know if those were really oranges you were asked to take back lol!  Was it bag of oranges?  We need get this straight because we will be reading about this from now on and I want it to be right! 

 



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Your manager asked if you had a second shirt yet.
You don't tell him no.
Maybe he could have done something for you.
But then you would have one less thing to complain about.


 

Oh good another anon fan.

I didn't tell him "no".
I told him "not yet".
And the last time someone complained to him about me not having a second shirt, the HR lady got in my face about it because she was frustrated that he had gone to her about someone complaining about the shirt.

The last thing I want right now is to have her on my ass again because he's gone to her a second time and asked about me having a second shirt.
I know she'd do the same thing.
Odd how she told me that time a few months ago that they were on 'back order' and she would 'let me know' or 'come to me' when they were at the store, yet all these new employees have clean new blue shirts.


 Ok, I'm confused now.  You didn't tell him "no",  you told him "not yet".  Was this in your head?  Or did you actually speak to him?  Your first post you wrote that you "coughed in your head and dodged the question".

Now I want to know if those were really oranges you were asked to take back lol!  Was it bag of oranges?  We need get this straight because we will be reading about this from now on and I want it to be right! 

 


 
I said "not yet" but also added that it wasn't that important at the moment.
"coughed in my head and dodged the question" meaning that in my head I was just groaning at the fact that he had asked again.
With my luck, when I go in to work next, the HR lady will end up confronting me again.

The oranges to take back were a regular sack of oranges from produce.
Stupidest thing to have to try to balance with bagging.
But once I had two cartons of eggs that a Floor Supervisor got on to me for trying to return before they warmed up.

This Front End of mine is just so screwed up.



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Whiny baby. Maybe thats why none of your supervisors like you. All you do is complain.

Also even if we all registered you do know we would still be anonymous right. 

 



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Just saying, no matter where you go, inside of a Kroger or not, you are gonna run into ******* higher ups, lots of **** that doesn't get done but needs to get done, and a bunch of other stuff.

Move to another department. I dare you to go into deli. You wouldn't last a week. 2 quit within a month at my store.

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Whiny baby. Maybe thats why none of your supervisors like you. All you do is complain.

Also even if we all registered you do know we would still be anonymous right. 

 


 "Whiny baby?"
How old are you again, son?

And my supervisors do like me.
I'm one of the hardest working on the 'lot, one of the faster baggers we have and despite my complaints I still show up for work on time and try to come in if called for gobacks or call-out.

Go play with your legos, kiddos.
 I think we sell them on aisle eight.



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Whine bitch whine bitch bitch bitch whine whine cry whine bitch whine cry cry bitch whine cry bitch bitch bitch whine bitch bitch cry..I think we all see the pattern with you..



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Whiny baby. Maybe thats why none of your supervisors like you. All you do is complain.

Also even if we all registered you do know we would still be anonymous right. 

 


 "Whiny baby?"
How old are you again, son?

And my supervisors do like me.
I'm one of the hardest working on the 'lot, one of the faster baggers we have and despite my complaints I still show up for work on time and try to come in if called for gobacks or call-out.

Go play with your legos, kiddos.
 I think we sell them on aisle eight.


25. So I know you are a whiny baby.

If you were a hard worker you wouldn't complain and bitch so much. I work hard and guess what? I don't BITCH about things out of my control.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to work with a whiny baby like you



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We all need to get some Give a Damn Brand. I think it is in aisle 25. 



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So... What's going on with this? Are they gonna let you transfer departments?

I don't know about other folks, but it seems the natural progression is to move courtesy clerks into produce... sometimes dairy, if they work out on the front end after a while.


I would strongly suggest staying away from deli. You'd have a whole new laundry list of things to be pissed off about. It's a thankless, no-win type of department.


Good luck :)

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Whiny baby. Maybe thats why none of your supervisors like you. All you do is complain.

Also even if we all registered you do know we would still be anonymous right. 

 


 "Whiny baby?"
How old are you again, son?

And my supervisors do like me.
I'm one of the hardest working on the 'lot, one of the faster baggers we have and despite my complaints I still show up for work on time and try to come in if called for gobacks or call-out.

Go play with your legos, kiddos.
 I think we sell them on aisle eight.


25. So I know you are a whiny baby.

 

 

"whiny baby"
Heh.
Act your age and not your ELMS score, Junior.

 

 

If you were a hard worker you wouldn't complain and bitch so much.

 

That makes about as much sense as Psst! brand tampons.

 

 

I work hard and guess what? I don't BITCH about things out of my control.

Good for you, now tell me why I care.

 

I feel sorry for anyone who has to work with a whiny baby like you

 

I feel sorry for anyone who has to work with a douchebag like you. 
Does that make us even?


 



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I've done this job. I've pushed carts in 100+ degree Arizona heat, I've had to be in the freezer for half an hour at a time, broken down milk loads, unloaded full trucks by hand (lots of water pallets in az) , but would I call being a courtesy clerk hard? **** no. If being a courtesy clerk is too stressful, quit and go on welfare. Er,, actually don't take tax payer money. This is a very easy company to work for. Anybody who says anything else is probably not going to succeed in life and remain a loser at Kroger until death. 

Go to night crew, see if throwing freight is any easier than bagging $ 500 orders, or pushing a train of 12 carts at once. Spoiler alert, throwing freight is the harder of the two beats (still not hard). 

 

YouAll never get along in life if you blame your boss for these poor circumstances, the only people who make it in this world are the ones who look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, make them



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Whiny baby. Maybe thats why none of your supervisors like you. All you do is complain.

Also even if we all registered you do know we would still be anonymous right. 

 


 "Whiny baby?"
How old are you again, son?

And my supervisors do like me.
I'm one of the hardest working on the 'lot, one of the faster baggers we have and despite my complaints I still show up for work on time and try to come in if called for gobacks or call-out.

Go play with your legos, kiddos.
 I think we sell them on aisle eight.


25. So I know you are a whiny baby.

If you were a hard worker you wouldn't complain and bitch so much. I work hard and guess what? I don't BITCH about things out of my control.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to work with a whiny baby like you


 You don't bitch about things out of your control? Except right there. You're basically bitching that he bitches. Take some of your own advice and have a glass of STFU. No one enjoys it when other people are whining, but this is an internet forum, and what are you doing BUT whining? Handing out words of wisdom, because you're so kind? Nope. Getting into a pissing contest with someone who - according to you - is a whiny baby who doesn't work as hard as you.

That makes you twice the whiny loser.

But I don't care about that, what gets me is hypocrisy and worse, hypocrisy mixed with a dose of stupidity. I mean you honestly think things like "anyone who says anything else is probably not going to succeed in life?" That's so mind-numbingly, appallingly idiotic that I'm surprised you managed to turn a computer on. People can work hard AND complain - why, often at the same time! - and if you think that's impossible you are even dumber than I've already concluded.



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Why don't you aim to take her job? I'm sure that if she's as bad as you say she is it wouldn't be that hard to oust her.

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Personal opinion, again, is that front end is the easiest part of the store to work in. That doesn't mean the work itself is easy, but compared to produce, grocery and drug/gm? There's a lot less responsibility.

Less responsibility up front than grocery or drug/gm? Are you kidding? Those were amazing to get away from the chaos up front when I did both.  Maybe if you just bag or cashier it's less responsibility but if you work the desk or the floor it's an unending pain in the ass.

FrontEndSlave whines too much.  Just do what you're told and suck it up.  We don't ever pay much attention to our bagger's breaks.  We depend on them to ask so we can read the situation on the floor.  The cashier breaks are trickier to avoid service failure & dips.  Plus anybody can bag or grab carts in in a pinch.

 



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Why don't you aim to take her job? I'm sure that if she's as bad as you say she is it wouldn't be that hard to oust her.


If she is that bad, it depends on whether management has the balls to take action.  We suffered a long time under a do-nothing, incompetent tyrant because they didn't want to rock the boat.  It was kind of pathetic.

 



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Personal opinion, again, is that front end is the easiest part of the store to work in. That doesn't mean the work itself is easy, but compared to produce, grocery and drug/gm? There's a lot less responsibility.

Less responsibility up front than grocery or drug/gm? Are you kidding? Those were amazing to get away from the chaos up front when I did both.  Maybe if you just bag or cashier it's less responsibility but if you work the desk or the floor it's an unending pain in the ass.

FrontEndSlave whines too much.  Just do what you're told and suck it up.  We don't ever pay much attention to our bagger's breaks.  We depend on them to ask so we can read the situation on the floor.  The cashier breaks are trickier to avoid service failure & dips.  Plus anybody can bag or grab carts in in a pinch.

 


You have to be independent and able to work without constant supervision in produce, drug/gm and grocery. Product needs to be pulled from the back room and placed on the shelves. If your working grocery, you'll likely be unloading trucks and keeping the back room organized as well as placing pallets of product in freezers. If your working produce, especially as a produce closer, the amount of work you're responsible for is at times overwhelming. 

Front end? I'm not saying this is typical of all employees that work Customer Care, but I've seen plenty that abuse downtime in between customers to no end, from texting on their phones to having their backs lean against the back counter just tossing their Service Center keys up in the air. Bookkeepers? Again, I'm sure it doesn't apply to everyone, but how often do I see the morning bookkeeping chatting it up with the self scan attendant or 8:00AM Customer Care person? Floor supervisors? Messing around with cashiers/baggers and flirting with whatever gender they're attracted to or checking their phones or just standing around doing nothing? I see hard workers on the front end, but they are few and far in between and the fact that so many of them can get away with doing nothing for extended periods of time tells me they wouldn't cut it in a department where there is more work that needs to be done than hours in a day.

Also too, there is more direct accountability in those departments than the front end. If you work produce and leave the back room a mess, don't uphold fresh & full practices when you have the product in the back and/or don't take general care of the sales floor, you can be darn sure the produce dept. head or back up dept. head is going to be on you. Drug/GM, if you fail to work pallets of products and condition, and in some instances make proper displays, among other responsibilities, the Drug/GM dept. head will say something. Grocery? It's either the associate manager or a co-manager or store manager that's going to get on you for backstock not being worked or holes not being filled or receiving looking like a tornado hit. On the front end, CSMs, from what I've seen, are not as good at holding people accountable for not staying productive, although I'm sure there are great CSMs out there.



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Personal opinion, again, is that front end is the easiest part of the store to work in. That doesn't mean the work itself is easy, but compared to produce, grocery and drug/gm? There's a lot less responsibility.

Less responsibility up front than grocery or drug/gm? Are you kidding? Those were amazing to get away from the chaos up front when I did both.  Maybe if you just bag or cashier it's less responsibility but if you work the desk or the floor it's an unending pain in the ass.

FrontEndSlave whines too much.  Just do what you're told and suck it up.  We don't ever pay much attention to our bagger's breaks.  We depend on them to ask so we can read the situation on the floor.  The cashier breaks are trickier to avoid service failure & dips.  Plus anybody can bag or grab carts in in a pinch.

 


You have to be independent and able to work without constant supervision in produce, drug/gm and grocery. Product needs to be pulled from the back room and placed on the shelves. If your working grocery, you'll likely be unloading trucks and keeping the back room organized as well as placing pallets of product in freezers. If your working produce, especially as a produce closer, the amount of work you're responsible for is at times overwhelming. 

Front end? I'm not saying this is typical of all employees that work Customer Care, but I've seen plenty that abuse downtime in between customers to no end, from texting on their phones to having their backs lean against the back counter just tossing their Service Center keys up in the air. Bookkeepers? Again, I'm sure it doesn't apply to everyone, but how often do I see the morning bookkeeping chatting it up with the self scan attendant or 8:00AM Customer Care person? Floor supervisors? Messing around with cashiers/baggers and flirting with whatever gender they're attracted to or checking their phones or just standing around doing nothing? I see hard workers on the front end, but they are few and far in between and the fact that so many of them can get away with doing nothing for extended periods of time tells me they wouldn't cut it in a department where there is more work that needs to be done than hours in a day.

Also too, there is more direct accountability in those departments than the front end. If you work produce and leave the back room a mess, don't uphold fresh & full practices when you have the product in the back and/or don't take general care of the sales floor, you can be darn sure the produce dept. head or back up dept. head is going to be on you. Drug/GM, if you fail to work pallets of products and condition, and in some instances make proper displays, among other responsibilities, the Drug/GM dept. head will say something. Grocery? It's either the associate manager or a co-manager or store manager that's going to get on you for backstock not being worked or holes not being filled or receiving looking like a tornado hit. On the front end, CSMs, from what I've seen, are not as good at holding people accountable for not staying productive, although I'm sure there are great CSMs out there.


 Yes, one has to be able to work independently if you are going to work in other departments. Recently we have one person working in grocery and this person wanders and cant be motivated to work on their own. I think soon they will move him elsewhere in the store or to the front end.

If you can work on your own then you should be able to work in another dept.



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