Anyone promoted to Lead wanna share their pay raise process? Did you have to negotiate anything or did they just hook you up?
For instance, I primarily work Dairy (4 yrs) but am classified as a part-time Grocery Clerk. Been getting interest from district folks to run my own store. What my current Dairy boss told me was to make sure I get paid properly if I do get promoted. Which is to discuss with them to:
-Get me topped out at my current class (Grocery Clerk)
-Then after a while, take the classes or whatever, and ensure I get Full-time status and receive another pay raise when I'm officially classified as a Lead.
Mainly want to hear your stories. If you had to negotiate this stuff, were screwed over, success stories, etc. Thanks!
Most people get screwed over with these types of promises. I'd be very cautious about this. Try to get stuff in writing or you may be stuck in "training" for lead and never get promoted and your pay raise. Pay raise only happens when you're officially promoted with the title, which is automatic at that point. Pay raises are static, which varies on union contracts. Good luck!
Thank you so much for the insightful reply! Yeah my Dairy manager also told me the same: To get it in writing.
I'm definitely cautious about this. I've heard and seen all the horror stories throughout the years, including workers like me getting sent to manage a department and eaten alive. But I see it as a good oppurtunity, I've succesfully taken over my department while my boss was gone (I'm the back-up), so we'll see. Thanks again!
I'm always confused by the discussions on this board about promotions and raises. In my division when a department head, backup or any full time job is available it is posted in all stores of our region then it must be signed by those interested and the person who signed with the most seniority is granted that and there is a set raise for that job. In my division they never just come and say hey I like you, want this job. That's not how it works in my region.
With that being said, is it possible that people aren't really getting screwed and they don't understand the rules of bid jobs? Or do some divisions not work by senior rule and bid jobs?
The CBAs are different. But most of the time the store manager/coordinator has the final say on promotions. And by getting screwed, that usually means getting stuck doing the responsibilities of said job and never getting promoted/paid for it (example: still in "training")
I'm always confused by the discussions on this board about promotions and raises. In my division when a department head, backup or any full time job is available it is posted in all stores of our region then it must be signed by those interested and the person who signed with the most seniority is granted that and there is a set raise for that job. In my division they never just come and say hey I like you, want this job. That's not how it works in my region.
With that being said, is it possible that people aren't really getting screwed and they don't understand the rules of bid jobs? Or do some divisions not work by senior rule and bid jobs?
That is how it works here too with the job bids. Once you are promoted you have a set pay and get the raises due to them by the contract. I don't understand the training part either. We don't do training here. I was promoted as back up and have not done training for anything. I learned how to do everything as a regular clerk by my old department head and filled in for her and the other backups vacations.
OP here. Yeah my division doesn't do the posting/signature thing. To be fair, they don't just throw you to another store. You do have to show interest in moving up and taking the responsibility which I have done.
Although, I'm sure most workers aren't ready and do it for the "pay raise" alone. Which ends with them disappointed and exhausted. Like you said, they don't understand the rules.
As for the "training", maybe I was mistaken on that. I knew a guy in the Meat department who had to take a few courses while he was getting promoted to a Lead. But that could've just been for Meat.
Well training is just an excuse to prolong your promotion (if official, comes with your pay raise and title), even when you're fully capable of running things alone. Saves the company a bunch of money when its a common practice among divisions.
Well training is just an excuse to prolong your promotion (if official, comes with your pay raise and title), even when you're fully capable of running things alone. Saves the company a bunch of money when its a common practice among divisions.
Totally. Which is a reason I started the thread, to hear personal stories regarding this stuff.
And I'm in TX. Position I'm in contention for is Dairy Lead. We got both Meat Department Leads and Head Cutters. The guy I knew in Meat did find success though. They hooked him up eventually, he's makin a pretty penny now. That's Meat for ya tho, I know I won't make as much as him. Different contracts and all.
I've been backup produce lead for 3 weeks now and still don't have the official title or the measly 75c pay raise so I make less than a McDonald's employee. I'm gonna give them 2 more weeks and if not fixed, I'm done with the company period. I just wanted the promotion for a resume anyway.
Anyone promoted to Lead wanna share their pay raise process? Did you have to negotiate anything or did they just hook you up?
For instance, I primarily work Dairy (4 yrs) but am classified as a part-time Grocery Clerk. Been getting interest from district folks to run my own store. What my current Dairy boss told me was to make sure I get paid properly if I do get promoted. Which is to discuss with them to:
-Get me topped out at my current class (Grocery Clerk)
-Then after a while, take the classes or whatever, and ensure I get Full-time status and receive another pay raise when I'm officially classified as a Lead.
Mainly want to hear your stories. If you had to negotiate this stuff, were screwed over, success stories, etc. Thanks!
I haven't heard of a negotiation pay raise, when becoming a Lead. It does sound like someone will get screwed. I will say though, that I might be one who would take the negotiation, as long as I guaranteed 40 hours a week.
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