I am so tired of being treated like **** by other employees/team members. Team work keeps getting expressed to me but How can there be team work when you stand alone, while the others treat you like ****, there is not team. I got into work today. Nothing got documented until I said something then it was all falsified. Garbage hadn't been taken, displays were empty, etc. Management doesn't give a **** or they would put a stop to it. Another Kroger Deli wants me to go to work there, but management at the Kroger I work won't agree to the transfer. I want to give my 2 weeks notice, but I'm afraid they'll put me on the 'Do Not Rehire' list. If they put me on that, the can't/won't Kroger that wants me won't hire me. So I'm to continue to be treated like **** in order to work in the Deli or find a job somewhere else. I don't want to fill out applications again. I hate online applications.
I feel your pain. It's the same at my store. I work with the biggest bunch of jerks,crybabies and know it alls. I hate 99% of the people I work with. Kroger created this mess...it is by design. and the best thing about it is those biggity ass corporate hotshots wont see it til it bites them on their big fat money theiving asses.
I am so tired of being treated like **** by other employees/team members. Team work keeps getting expressed to me but How can there be team work when you stand alone, while the others treat you like ****, there is not team. I got into work today. Nothing got documented until I said something then it was all falsified. Garbage hadn't been taken, displays were empty, etc. Management doesn't give a **** or they would put a stop to it. Another Kroger Deli wants me to go to work there, but management at the Kroger I work won't agree to the transfer. I want to give my 2 weeks notice, but I'm afraid they'll put me on the 'Do Not Rehire' list. If they put me on that, the can't/won't Kroger that wants me won't hire me. So I'm to continue to be treated like **** in order to work in the Deli or find a job somewhere else. I don't want to fill out applications again. I hate online applications.
I'm sorry you are dealing with this, just hang in there, something, will change, like you may get a new store manger who agrees to your transfer request, if you believe in God, then pray for what you want or news. I work at a terrible Kroger store, and my coworkers are downright psychotic. It is actually disturbing to work there sometimes, and management is useless and so is corporate.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought they'll have you as "Do Not Rehire" if you quit on the spot, or get fired because you did something completely inexcusable. They shouldn't do that to you if you give 2 weeks notice.
They may take you off the schedule completely for the final 2 weeks if you give notice though. I've seen that happen.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I always thought they'll have you as "Do Not Rehire" if you quit on the spot, or get fired because you did something completely inexcusable. They shouldn't do that to you if you give 2 weeks notice.
They may take you off the schedule completely for the final 2 weeks if you give notice though. I've seen that happen.
I was told, by a Union Rep, that they could put you on the 'Do Not Rehire' list even if you give notice. I know the store manager well enough to know, that if you piss her off enough, she'll come up with a reason to put you on the list.
I don't know if this will work for you, but I was in a similar situation. I went to the store that I wanted to transfer to and explained my situation to the store manager/HR co-manager about how I was going to have to quit because my current store wasn't going to approve my transfer (I was told that I had to wait for them to replace me... but weeks went by and they weren't even trying), and I was told that if my store wouldn't approve my transfer within the next few weeks to give them a call and they would get on the phone with my store manager and push the transfer through. They didn't want me to quit and they were willing to apply pressure on the my store manager to approve the transfer. I don't know for sure if any phone calls were made, but all I know is that within a week and a half my transfer went through - without anyone being hired to replace me.
So if the management at your current store is being unreasonable and you're at the point where walking out is getting more and more tempting (like I was), then before you actually go and do something that you could end up regretting, go to the store you want to transfer to. Talk to the store manager and HR co-manager. Explain how you really don't want to quit Kroger and how you'd love the opportunity to come to this store and make a difference. If it's the deli Department Head that wants you there, ask him/her if it's okay that you mention to management there that he/she wants you to be a part of the team. If you can make a positive enough impression on the store manager/HR co-manager, they may be willing to go to bat for you and pressure your current store into approving the transfer.
No guarantees, but I know what it's like to be in a terrible work environment with lazy, arrogant employees... and you get to a point where anything is worth a shot.
I think more and more Long Term Associates are feeling the results of the do more with less and the Store Manager- GOD complex. I love how Store Management is more interested in retaining NEW ASSOCIATES when actually caring about the ones working day-in-day-out! We no longer have visits that are associates meaningful, but rather SLAM sessions! Your not making your #, NO EXCUSES......When you tell your issues its "We will look into it" and that's about all that happens! If you speak out because something is working correctly....your the ISSUE!
Remember OSAT.....customer perception is reality? Associates perception is also reality! I challenge KMA leadership to actually call an associates at home and invite them to a discussions and see what Associates really feel! I see too many Dept Heads + 20+ year associates defeated ......and all we are told is do more...do more...do more..... when no one is able to be hired! HELL, New Associates get scheduled whatever they want....long term associates have to BEG to get something basic!
If its cost $1100-1500 to get a new associates....how much does it cost to lose a long term associates?
^ My belief is that Kroger actually wants to get rid of long term employees and instead have a revolving door of new employees that never last more than a year. The reason for that belief? Well, new employees start at the bottom of the pay scale, so they are cheaper to schedule and give hours to than someone that has gotten two, three, four or more years worth of raises. New employees start with zero paid time off whereas Kroger has to give paid vacation time/personal days to someone that's been with Kroger for at least a year. New employees don't qualify for health insurance through Kroger, whereas employees that have been with the company for a year do. New employees don't qualify for pensions whereas employees that have been with Kroger for five years do.
So, I believe Kroger wants new employees to be happy and stick around... at least until they begin to accumulate benefits, and I believe Kroger would be more than happy if any employee with two years or more experience would up and quit. I think it's cheaper in the long run for Kroger to be constantly hiring new employees than it is to maintain a steady, long term employee base... especially since Kroger keeps changing up its hiring process in order to bring down the costs of hiring new employees.
^ My belief is that Kroger actually wants to get rid of long term employees and instead have a revolving door of new employees that never last more than a year. The reason for that belief? Well, new employees start at the bottom of the pay scale, so they are cheaper to schedule and give hours to than someone that has gotten two, three, four or more years worth of raises. New employees start with zero paid time off whereas Kroger has to give paid vacation time/personal days to someone that's been with Kroger for at least a year. New employees don't qualify for health insurance through Kroger, whereas employees that have been with the company for a year do. New employees don't qualify for pensions whereas employees that have been with Kroger for five years do.
So, I believe Kroger wants new employees to be happy and stick around... at least until they begin to accumulate benefits, and I believe Kroger would be more than happy if any employee with two years or more experience would up and quit. I think it's cheaper in the long run for Kroger to be constantly hiring new employees than it is to maintain a steady, long term employee base... especially since Kroger keeps changing up its hiring process in order to bring down the costs of hiring new employees.
It is cheaper for them to get rid of long term employees and hire new ones, but it isn't smarter. The problem with the older employees is they think they don't have to do anything. They become lazy and are getting paid to do nothing at all. This is why Kroger wants to get rid of them. They have become completely useless!
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^ My belief is that Kroger actually wants to get rid of long term employees and instead have a revolving door of new employees that never last more than a year. The reason for that belief? Well, new employees start at the bottom of the pay scale, so they are cheaper to schedule and give hours to than someone that has gotten two, three, four or more years worth of raises. New employees start with zero paid time off whereas Kroger has to give paid vacation time/personal days to someone that's been with Kroger for at least a year. New employees don't qualify for health insurance through Kroger, whereas employees that have been with the company for a year do. New employees don't qualify for pensions whereas employees that have been with Kroger for five years do.
So, I believe Kroger wants new employees to be happy and stick around... at least until they begin to accumulate benefits, and I believe Kroger would be more than happy if any employee with two years or more experience would up and quit. I think it's cheaper in the long run for Kroger to be constantly hiring new employees than it is to maintain a steady, long term employee base... especially since Kroger keeps changing up its hiring process in order to bring down the costs of hiring new employees.
It is cheaper for them to get rid of long term employees and hire new ones, but it isn't smarter. The problem with the older employees is they think they don't have to do anything. They become lazy and are getting paid to do nothing at all. This is why Kroger wants to get rid of them. They have become completely useless!
This is true. The thing about the older employees that you described is that they've been paying union dues for so long that the union will go to great lengths to protect them regardless of whether disciplinary action is justified or not because these older, long term employees represent the bread and butter of the union. The result is management will be more hesitant to enforce rules and standards on these older employees because they know it's just asking for trouble.
I had a buddy get put on a 'do not rehire list' for calling out unethical behavior from his old store manager. Well he reapplied for another Kroger that wanted him... And got the job. His old store manager was PISSED!! but he got fired shortly after
