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Bakerchick25

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So just learned that deli and bakery hours got cut again. And although I was told that, they would make sure that I had a minimum of 32 hours as is my due as a full-timer now in times of cut hours. I could still bump someone with less seniority, as long as it didn't put them below 15 hours. My question is, how do you go about bumping folks in the first place?

Also, can you ask your schedule writer to put you down for particular hours on a particular day to work or no? Cause I have a doc appt. coming up on Oct. 11th at 1:30, and I don't want to request a whole day off for one appt.

P.S. Not like I'm going to do a lot of it in the first place anyway. Given that so many folks that have been hired on after me, have such specific days and what not that they are on in, do to their own second jobs and school and so forth. But want to be as informed as I can about this sort of thing.

 



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What state are you in?

If you are definitely full time, most contracts guarantee you get more than 32 hours a week or you lose full time status.  Ask your shop steward or district union rep asap.

Our contract minimum is 38 hours a week.

Some contracts specify that you have to take all their shifts to bump them.  Our contract allows you to bump by individual shifts.

Ask your shop steward for a grievance form because you want to bump someones' shift.

I do not think shift bumping will benefit you.  If you have 32 hours and the person below you has 24 hours, there is nothing to bump except the shift.

You are full time, so you are above all part timers.  From there, it is by full time seniority.



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At my store, the new schedules get posted every Friday. You then have until Saturday at noon to claim another worker's hours.

After that window of time, you can't bump anyone until next week.

You can't bump anyone's shift if it's outside of your selected availability (i.e. their shift starts at 8 am, but your shifts only start as early as 10 am) even if you would be willing to work early that day.

You also can't bump anyone if you're scheduled to work 5 days in that week; even if the shifts are themselves are only 4 or 5 hours long.

As for your doctor's appointment : some schedule writers are cool about that, if you leave a written note specifying those paricular hours on October 11th, give them a verbal reminder, then leave it on their desk, right when they get ready to do the schedules that week (So the Tuesday before I suppose)

Others, will be incredibly difficult and unwavering ("You NEED to put that in your availability! I can't do anything!")

Guess which ones are the most common?

I wouldn't risk it. I would just request that day off completely and leave in the comments it's for a Doctor's appointment.

Altering your Wednesday availability (October 11 is a Wednesday) would need to be done probably 4 weeks in advance or something. Then after you have that day altered how you want it, you'll have to fix it again, so you'll have limited Wednesday availability for a couple more weeks.

Yeah...Again, I would just ask off.

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full time where i'm at is guaranteed 40 hours. the 32 hours you talk about is probably the minimum hours you need to work to maintain your full time status.

read your contract. trust no one kroger is full of idiots and people who don't know that think they know.



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Anonymouse1 wrote:

What state are you in?

If you are definitely full time, most contracts guarantee you get more than 32 hours a week or you lose full time status.  Ask your shop steward or district union rep asap.

Our contract minimum is 38 hours a week.

Some contracts specify that you have to take all their shifts to bump them.  Our contract allows you to bump by individual shifts.

Ask your shop steward for a grievance form because you want to bump someones' shift.

I do not think shift bumping will benefit you.  If you have 32 hours and the person below you has 24 hours, there is nothing to bump except the shift.

You are full time, so you are above all part timers.  From there, it is by full time seniority.


 I'm in Ohio. And yea they said as of the 23rd my full time status went into effect of last month. I think it could be that it was the minimum of 32 hours as the other poster mentioned. But for sure I'll ask my union steward about the parameters of bumping someone. As I wouldn't want to work all their shifts just to get my hours. Although, I don't see how that would work anyway, if the other person is getting fewer hours than myself in the first place like you said.

And as it stands, I'm getting all of my 40 hours so far. But yea, as I said in my initial post, they are talking about cutting hours once more. And I just wanted to know  my options on what I could do to keep my full time status. Took a while to get it and want to keep it while I can.

But that is good to know that I'd be above other part-timers. Not because I think I'm better than anybody. But it does pay to be working just my OWN hours and not someone else's do to call offs. So that is definitely a great perk.

Thanks again for the info too.



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Lane Hardy wrote:

At my store, the new schedules get posted every Friday. You then have until Saturday at noon to claim another worker's hours.

After that window of time, you can't bump anyone until next week.

You can't bump anyone's shift if it's outside of your selected availability (i.e. their shift starts at 8 am, but your shifts only start as early as 10 am) even if you would be willing to work early that day.

You also can't bump anyone if you're scheduled to work 5 days in that week; even if the shifts are themselves are only 4 or 5 hours long.

As for your doctor's appointment : some schedule writers are cool about that, if you leave a written note specifying those paricular hours on October 11th, give them a verbal reminder, then leave it on their desk, right when they get ready to do the schedules that week (So the Tuesday before I suppose)

Others, will be incredibly difficult and unwavering ("You NEED to put that in your availability! I can't do anything!")

Guess which ones are the most common?

I wouldn't risk it. I would just request that day off completely and leave in the comments it's for a Doctor's appointment.

Altering your Wednesday availability (October 11 is a Wednesday) would need to be done probably 4 weeks in advance or something. Then after you have that day altered how you want it, you'll have to fix it again, so you'll have limited Wednesday availability for a couple more weeks.

Yeah...Again, I would just ask off.


 Hmm, our schedule's get posted every Thursday. But yea, will talk things over with my union steward to see how things go in my division. Thanks for the example though of how it works at your store as well.

Really? You think changing my availability for just one appt. would help?  I mean my schedule is pretty open and I was thinking that maybe when I talked to her, I could just ask her to schedule me for a 3 a.m. to 11 a.m. shift and I could still work AND make it to the appt. Be sleepy as hell, but 2 birds one stone.

And our scheduler is pretty great. But I think with her also being the back up over deli and having so much going on recently. She screwed up some of the schedules for our chicken shop and so forth while our DH was away. And peeps were giving her such a hard time about it. That I think she might crack down on any future requests off. Hence, I was thinking of just talking to her about giving me an earlier shift. So I can still be there for work and get to my appointment as well. Would be even more awesome if I had the day off altogether, but I'm doubtful on that one as they've been keeping my days off to Mondays and Tuesdays a lot lately so I can work the rest of the week.

But yea, I'll talk to her anyway about it. Not like I request off or even call off all the time anyway. And I do try and keep my requests for valid reasons. So gives me some leeway, I hope. Thanks again for the info.



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Talk to your Schedule Write and tell them you want 40 hours and will bump to get your 40 hours. While some Schedule Writers will say they have no control over how the hours are allotted ....they are lying! While there may be limitations, they still have control to do what they need to do. If someone is going to bump, I would write an "un-bump-able" schedule and give 40 hours where its justified and available. Which UFCW?

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EUID_Unknown wrote:

Talk to your Schedule Write and tell them you want 40 hours and will bump to get your 40 hours. While some Schedule Writers will say they have no control over how the hours are allotted ....they are lying! While there may be limitations, they still have control to do what they need to do. If someone is going to bump, I would write an "un-bump-able" schedule and give 40 hours where its justified and available. Which UFCW?


 Ahh I see. Good to know and I'm under UFCW 1059.

And I think I found the section in my contract here about available hours.

10.7 Available Hours

Employees shall receive available hours (any and all portions of less senior employee(s)' schedule(s)) up to and including eight (8) hours per day, forty (40) hours per week or thirty-two (32) hours in a holiday week(employees hired after 3/14/88, forty (40) hours in a holiday week) in accordance with seniority, if qualified to perform the work assigned and the job classification within the individual store provided that this does not conflict with another provision of this Agreement, and provided further that the employee with seniority advises the Store Manager that he is available for a posted schedule of hours within twenty-four (24) hours after the store schedule is posted. Available hours may be exercised only for the five (5) highest hour days in the week (four (4) highest hour days in holiday weeks for employees hired prior to 3/14/88) including Sundays and holidays if not paid a Sunday or Holiday premium.

For the purpose of this Section 10.7 full time employees shall have seniority over part-time employees. When an employee is exercising their rights under this provision, and it causes the addition or elimination of a lunch period, the employee will not be precluded from bumping under this provision. However, the employee will be required to work the claimed hours so the coverage as determined by the original schedule is not interrupted.

Now as my understanding of legalese and contractual wording is not that great. All I can figure out from what all of that is saying that yes full timers can bump part-timers. Or does it mean that  from the other person's 5 week schedule, I can bump for the highest amount of hours only? Meaning just one of their shifts or would it be all of them? This is hella confusing.



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