I work in grocery, particularly dairy ATM. As of the last two schedules, grocery hours have been cut heavily by store management. I work at a Marketplace mainly on 2nd shift. There is one person in dairy and one person in grocery and no one in frozen (understaffed). At times, I have had to run all three departments by myself because of people not showing up and not being called in to replace others. I am a college student and am part-time, averaging 24-32 hours a week which is perfect. Lately, I have been getting ridiculous hours such as 10-15 a week. Is there anything that can be done at all? Other 2nd shift workers have taken a hit as well, with some only getting a total of 8 hours a week. Will filing a grievance with UFCW 75 do anything for me? I don't want to leave Kroger, but I may have to look elsewhere with these ridiculous hours.
-- Edited by Kroger_Slave on Friday 25th of May 2018 11:03:11 PM
We feel your pain. It hurts when intelligence, reason, and logic crash headlong into the intellectually-dishonest corporate world of sugar/UpLift-coated greed and mindless metrics. This company (and maybe Corporate America) is/are loathsome.
Union contracts leave very broad discretion to management in running the business. We can't stop them from running it into the ground.
At least, you know, you are getting something of a real-world education here . . . how dumb and dangerous corporations can be and what it's like to be under the boots of merciless machine.
I wouldn't worry, but if you want to make your point very clear. Just tell your Manager you want to go to the FE because you need you hours or tell them you will be calling other stores to see about transferring (because you need your hours). Normally, this will normally freak the Manager out (because they do not want to lose a good worker) and eliminate any further issues. Normally, Managers will write the schedule in a way to try and make everyone happy that they have talked too.
I know how you feel because I was getting 32-40 hours a week, but management started cutting our hours too. Have you checked your contract book to see if there is a minimum that you can be scheduled. A union rep said ours is supposed to be 20. I haven't had a problem getting at least that. Call your Union Rep and see if yours is any different
lol, Just follow the plan and your will be fine (their wording as they walk fast out of your eye sight). So they are scheduling you by yourself because they isn't anyone else or because of hours? Hell, if I had college students and they showed up and wanted the hours..... I would give them whatever they wanted (minors are the norm now). Like I said in a previous post, if I had a hardworking associate and they asked me about more hours or changing their shift, my answer would always be YES (within reason). I find it hard to understand why other Department Managers/Leader do not understand, do what you can do in your powers to keep the good associates and say goodbye to the others that are just "there". Even when they told me to cut hours, I always make it fair to all associates and worked with people to meet their needs. If your Manager isn't planning for the future/unknowns they are not really managing, there should always be a solution (unless your being completely blocked by higher ups, which will question you when it all falls apart).
It varies depending on contract. But i believe about 10-15 is the minimum hours guranteed as part time. I think baggers are guranteed like 4-8.
Full timers are guranteed 40 hours, so it seems like to me that your store is overratio if part time hours are getting cut so hard.
My suggestion to you is to ask your manager if theres hours in other departments. when i was part time i worked in produce, but my hours would get cut, so i would ask the store manager if there were hours in ofher departments. I generally floated between produce, front end, grocery replenishment, nutrition, and dairy.
if that doesnt work then i suggest finding a new job.
They're training everyone in grocery in ClickList starting this week, so if they need help we can go over there. I find that hilarious considering that it is the complete opposite, if anything grocery needs help.
I wouldn't worry, but if you want to make your point very clear. Just tell your Manager you want to go to the FE because you need you hours or tell them you will be calling other stores to see about transferring (because you need your hours). Normally, this will normally freak the Manager out (because they do not want to lose a good worker) and eliminate any further issues. Normally, Managers will write the schedule in a way to try and make everyone happy that they have talked too.
Which District are you in ?
Boom, nailed it. If you're a good worker, they'll do everything in their power to keep you there. Even if increasing hours. OP should get more time since it's a marketplace store. Those stores are bigger. Bigger store means more profit and more hours.
They're training everyone in grocery in ClickList starting this week, so if they need help we can go over there. I find that hilarious considering that it is the complete opposite, if anything grocery needs help.
Im so so curious to know what store you work in. I have a couple opinions, but dont say it. They are training departments in clicklist, because clicklist has same day ordering and can get blown out at times. Im not saying its a reason, but thats what theyre saying. Theyre perception and presentation is more important than anything else. Literal words from Kroger. The grocery department is one with time to waste in the eyes of many many many people, because we dont serve. Were the grunts. This is coming from a store that has been ahead of the curve on all of these program implementations. Weve been a tester guinea pig store for a while now.
Im just saying, I agree with you, but this is the way Kroger is going now. They want to be Walmart cheap but still get their same loyal customer base and their loyal employees without paying them or having the promises they had. I would suggest trying to transfer to a dept that has more hours open. What Im assuming is happening is your groc dept is over scheduled, so they are cutting the hours of everyone who is a status 4 or a lower seniority. Other than changing depts (or stores - a lot of groc depts are hurting bad in cinci district and will take you) you can take the shifts of the people who are a lower seniority than you. Its your only option until your groc elms goes back up. And they give you hours.
I wouldn't worry, but if you want to make your point very clear. Just tell your Manager you want to go to the FE because you need you hours or tell them you will be calling other stores to see about transferring (because you need your hours). Normally, this will normally freak the Manager out (because they do not want to lose a good worker) and eliminate any further issues. Normally, Managers will write the schedule in a way to try and make everyone happy that they have talked too.
Which District are you in ?
Boom, nailed it. If you're a good worker, they'll do everything in their power to keep you there. Even if increasing hours. OP should get more time since it's a marketplace store. Those stores are bigger. Bigger store means more profit and more hours.
While it does mean that, its not as many hours as you might think. They are cutting everyone everywhere as much as they can. i know of stores that do double the groc sales as mine but only have about one third more hours, only 1 or 2 more night stockers. Because the work is already getting done in the same areas, the elms is only added for the actual time for product to be stocked up. And even then, its a prediction. And even then, just as in smaller stores, its not enough. And even then, they still struggle with subpar employees, call offs, customer influxes, etc.
What they've done is have changed a few day-shift worker's schedules. Instead of working 6a-2p or 7a-3p, they're working 9a-5p in grocery/dairy. Because of that, 2nd shift comes in at 5p-10p instead of the normal 2p-10p that we used to work. 9a-5p in dairy is not good, as day shift can't get done what they need to get done due to the store being busy with customers. I find it funny they want 2nd shift to work everything on 5p-10p. All I have time to do is fill milk, eggs, tea, juice, pull milk truck and perishable truck, then condition. By the time I'm done with all that it's time to go home.
-- Edited by Kroger_Slave on Tuesday 29th of May 2018 08:44:22 AM
You can file for partial unemployment. Though it's so little it's not even work it. Every employee is technically classified as "part-time" which means you are not guaranteed a full forty hours. The company can fluctuate hours to meet the demands of the business. They did this to me for having one schedule restriction. I questioned it. My hours went form close to 40 to 27ish at best. For a one day a week off request. Even with one day off requests. The company can legally do this and does not feel it wrong to squash the little guy on the totem pole to get their million dollar paycheck. Kroger is not known for a work life balance. I regret missing so many family moments and not being apart of them because of this company.
Ok, I want to first say, been there done that, I was hired as PART TIME, just like everyone else. I find it funny how people see "Nights, Weekends, Holidays" in the listing and think it does not apply to them. I like everyone else missed many events, weekends, holidays and just in general fun times in my years. With saying my previous statements, I decided to say yes to the job/work/hours/pay and to not quit. What everyone does not understand is no organization has any obligation to give associates everything everything they what. It would be nice to make 100k but, but your delusional if you think those jobs come around often. Yes, it would be nice to make more $$, less hours and less work, but I knew what hours/work/pay I was committing too. This organization is like everyone else, you provided the going rate for hourly pay, you provide the retail accepted benefits, yes it would be nice for more of everything, but remember this....110 Billion in sales profit of 1.5 Billion. This profit doesn't belong to the associates, it belongs to everyone that owns stock. Even if you would divide the 1.5 Billion by the 450k in associates, you would make more, but not enough to change anyone's lives.
Ok, I want to first say, been there done that, I was hired as PART TIME, just like everyone else. I find it funny how people see "Nights, Weekends, Holidays" in the listing and think it does not apply to them. I like everyone else missed many events, weekends, holidays and just in general fun times in my years. With saying my previous statements, I decided to say yes to the job/work/hours/pay and to not quit. What everyone does not understand is no organization has any obligation to give associates everything everything they what. It would be nice to make 100k but, but your delusional if you think those jobs come around often. Yes, it would be nice to make more $$, less hours and less work, but I knew what hours/work/pay I was committing too. This organization is like everyone else, you provided the going rate for hourly pay, you provide the retail accepted benefits, yes it would be nice for more of everything, but remember this....110 Billion in sales profit of 1.5 Billion. This profit doesn't belong to the associates, it belongs to everyone that owns stock. Even if you would divide the 1.5 Billion by the 450k in associates, you would make more, but not enough to change anyone's lives.
Can't say I agree with that. Without the associates, you have ZERO profit. When you cut your associates' hours and fail to pay a competitive wage, you're going to have associates that come in and do the BARE MINIMUM. That can and does cut into a company's sales because those associates don't CARE if the customer leaves happy or not, or if the customer comes back or not. Start treating associates like ASSETS rather than COSTS and maybe you'll see productivity and customer service go up, which can and does increase customer loyalty/positive word of mouth among family, friends and social media.
Ok, I want to first say, been there done that, I was hired as PART TIME, just like everyone else. I find it funny how people see "Nights, Weekends, Holidays" in the listing and think it does not apply to them. I like everyone else missed many events, weekends, holidays and just in general fun times in my years. With saying my previous statements, I decided to say yes to the job/work/hours/pay and to not quit. What everyone does not understand is no organization has any obligation to give associates everything everything they what. It would be nice to make 100k but, but your delusional if you think those jobs come around often. Yes, it would be nice to make more $$, less hours and less work, but I knew what hours/work/pay I was committing too. This organization is like everyone else, you provided the going rate for hourly pay, you provide the retail accepted benefits, yes it would be nice for more of everything, but remember this....110 Billion in sales profit of 1.5 Billion. This profit doesn't belong to the associates, it belongs to everyone that owns stock. Even if you would divide the 1.5 Billion by the 450k in associates, you would make more, but not enough to change anyone's lives.
Can't say I agree with that. Without the associates, you have ZERO profit. When you cut your associates' hours and fail to pay a competitive wage, you're going to have associates that come in and do the BARE MINIMUM. That can and does cut into a company's sales because those associates don't CARE if the customer leaves happy or not, or if the customer comes back or not. Start treating associates like ASSETS rather than COSTS and maybe you'll see productivity and customer service go up, which can and does increase customer loyalty/positive word of mouth among family, friends and social media.
I completely agree with you. I always worked as hard as I could and helped customers as much as I could. I truly did care about my job. But now, I really dont care. I come in for the ridiculous 5 hr shift, do what I can, and leave. Im not gonna kill myself at work when I get screwed by management. If they dont care about me, then I dont care about my job.
-- Edited by Kroger_Slave on Wednesday 30th of May 2018 02:44:17 PM
