Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
Post Info TOPIC: How much longer will Kroger be around?
Anonymous

Date:
How much longer will Kroger be around?
Permalink   


With the IIC spending more time worrying about Key Retailing and ELMS then actually having groceries on the shelves, I can't help but wonder about the future of this company. How many more years do you give Kroger?

__________________


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 488
Date:
Permalink   

depends on the echonomy. if things get better, kroger will have a bit of a resurgance.
but still, it's days are numbered.
honestly, i give it 5 years or less, as it stands know. it won't be gone after those 5 years, but will have shrank a lot, and closed a lot of stores.
in 10 years, kroger will go belly up, and a few stores will be bought out, the rest closed.
some remaining might still be called kroger, but the company as we know it will be gone.
krogwer is throwing money into bad plans, with know signs of stopping.
too many people have worked for, and been screwed over by kroger. eventually it will bite them.

__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

barada, you are right, kroger is throwing there money toward crazy ideas.  If all stores were the same it would work, but they are not.  Elms and key retailing will be the death of our company.

__________________


Guru

Status: Offline
Posts: 380
Date:
Permalink   

What does ELMS actually do anyway? I thought that it was just the system of which they measure how many items per minute a cashier can scan, and transaction times, but apparently, it is something different. My manager was telling everyone at a meeting that the store budget was figured out by ELMS. I asked him how that was, as I thought that ELMS only a measurement of the cashiers, but he said that ELMS is a lot of different things, and too complicated to get into at the moment.

__________________


Senior Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 129
Date:
Permalink   

Cathy wrote:

What does ELMS actually do anyway? I thought that it was just the system of which they measure how many items per minute a cashier can scan, and transaction times, but apparently, it is something different. My manager was telling everyone at a meeting that the store budget was figured out by ELMS. I asked him how that was, as I thought that ELMS only a measurement of the cashiers, but he said that ELMS is a lot of different things, and too complicated to get into at the moment.



Efficient Labor Management Systems.  It does exactly what you said in tracking the automated speed of a cashier running a register and generates a score for the cashier and the store in general to increase effectiveness.  As with everything else, its highly flawed because in most cases, the bigger the store, the higher your ELMS score is going to be.

ELMS also generates how many hours the store needs to operate as well as the operating budget.  I'm sure I am missing something, but thats what I know about it.

 



__________________
"The postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent the positions, strategies or opinions of The Kroger Co. family of stores."
AnonymousKAT

Date:
Permalink   

elms is a joke there are days when we have 2 extra baggers and days when we are incredibly shorted workers. they say it works but i beg to differ.krogers new motto should be "fixing what isnt broken".

__________________


Veteran Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 64
Date:
Permalink   

well let me tell you kroger isnt going anywere. Its going to be around for a LONG time.
 The Great Depession is were the answer is. Kroger did very well in times like that. The stores do better when the economy is in the tank like it is today. People arnt going to returaunts as much as they used to. When you do go ask the manager how this economy has effected the business. The only resturaunts doing halfway disent are along the interstate highways and the ones only open fri,sat,and sunday. However dont get me wrong the company is wasting valuble company resorces on these crappy programs The worst is the OMNI VISION, got to hand it to the people who took one over on the company to buy it!

__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

seems they care more about you getting your 100% effeciency than keeping the shelves stocked at peak hours

__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

ELMS is an labor management system that helps to match tasks to hours store wide . like most programs it is not purfect but comes close. the problem is that kroger does not let go of the extra stuff that is time consuming so ELMS just ticks everyone off because there really is not enough hours to do the "extra stuff" and tasks. so we all are either lieing and saying that we are doing things that we can't, or we run around doing crap before "company comes" so it looks like we do this. or we burn OT.


__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

I also think kroger will be around a long time. but in these times who knows. all of these programs are the  product of different people in the company using these to get promoted. we are left living with this. key retailing will not go away, way to much money spent on it . we have to keep the stock holders beliving that we are not bafoons . some people will say too late on the bafoons part.
saying all that i think as a company we have way to many irons in the fire , we are flushrating our people, and running them ragged. which is i'm sure causing some of the posts that say supervisor yelling at them. or management walking past people and not handling issues. stess cause either lashing out or being passive and just saying "what ever i can't do it all"
that leaves our other people saying what's going I'm working my self to death and all i get is we need more!
i don't know how this will end . it is not a good place as hard worker that needs their job to be in.

__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

ELMS is a joke... I work as a cashier at a kroger in central VA.   As a PT empl, some weeks I get only 4 hours, but almost ALWAYS am assigned to an express checkout lane. Our espresses are the 4-bag carousel type.  I am fast, accurate, and considered a good employee, but no matter how fast I work, I can't get my score above 85%.  Yet every week, the mgr draws a line on the report at 95% and writes Good Job to those above 95%, and Do Better to those under 95%.
Dept. Head told me that because of the carousels there's no room to put the groceries, so it's scan/bag/scan/bag, etc., therefore it is impossible to get a faster score.  The full-timers get the best scores, because they're working the full lanes, with baggers.
I am disgusted at the inequality of this system, am considering filing a discriminatory workplace grievance.  On Christmas Eve, I pushed 44 customers per hour!!! non-stop, yet my scores are in the 80s.  Other cashiers who work a fraction of the customers I do in a week have higher scores.   I have gotten into the practice of printing my performance snapshots periodically from the register, so that I have evidence if this ever bites me.
Unless ELMS can be applied fairly across the board to all employees, it should not be used. 
I hate kroger!  It is the worst employer I've ever worked for.  If I wasn't under-employed in this rotten economy, I'd quit this worthless and degrading job, working for peanuts for idiots, serving Oxygen Thieves on foodstamps who eat better than I do.

__________________
Anonymous

Date:
Permalink   

Great ideal!


__________________
Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us


Create your own FREE Forum
Report Abuse
Powered by ActiveBoard