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Lately the store has been going over budget . All I've been hearing from management is no hours and all this . All the new people they hired haven't been getting hours . One of the new baggers , she only got 4 hours this week and everybody else , their hours just got cut in half . Well I came up the stairs and another person got hired and all I could think to myself was why ? You don't have hours for the people you have now .

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They dont want you to stay long...

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Lately the store has been going over budget . All I've been hearing from management is no hours and all this . All the new people they hired haven't been getting hours . One of the new baggers , she only got 4 hours this week and everybody else , their hours just got cut in half . Well I came up the stairs and another person got hired and all I could think to myself was why ? You don't have hours for the people you have now .


 

Just a guess here but here it is.

 

It takes ( from what management told me ) about 3 weeks to get a person hires and to their first day of work. There is anywhere from a 45 to 90 day probation period for new hires. The idea is to bring them in, see if they are worth keeping , or not, and moving out the bad before the probation period is over.

 

Now there will be vacations starting up and they will want to have those new hires trained to start covering some of them. Now remember this, any additional hours that a part timer earns because of someone on vacation, does not count towards them getting full time status. Check your contract to be sure.

 

There are a lot of contracts that will be renegotiated soon, and the idea of getting more help in and steering them away from the union, will only help the company and harm the union thru talks.

 

But it comes down to this. MONEY AND COST FOR BENAFITS. When the oboma care all starts hitting, the companies , like Kroger, will have to pay for the benefits for all full time employees. The government has defined that to be 30 hours a week or 120 hours a month, 28 average per week. Companies will start putting more part timers in roles and cutting them to 24 or 25 hours a weak to avoid them having to pay. Now if a total benefits package costs about $6 per hour for the company and they can cut out most of that and not your hourly rate , them big cost savings to them.

 

And there is one other last thing I here from management a lot. Flexibility. With less full-timers and more part timers, it gives them more flexibility in writing a schedule and covering their needs. Part timers are a little more reluctant to change their availability in order to get the hours where a full timer generally knows they have the hours they need.

 



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Lately the store has been going over budget . All I've been hearing from management is no hours and all this . All the new people they hired haven't been getting hours . One of the new baggers , she only got 4 hours this week and everybody else , their hours just got cut in half . Well I came up the stairs and another person got hired and all I could think to myself was why ? You don't have hours for the people you have now .


 Check your union contract here on this one. Most contracts state a minimum number of hours that they have to schedule someone. Unless there is extreeme limits, then one should have about 12 hours minimum thru most contracts. If this is not the case, then contact your rep and have them request changes or payment for the minumum hours (12) rather than just 4 hours.



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It all comes down to avaliability, as previously stated.
If Joe's avaliability is limited, and a new hire Jane's isn't... Jane will get the hours Joe can't work. Maybe Joe requested off a day, Jane is there to cover that shift.

I've gone back to part-time with a pretty limited avaliability, and there have been a few weeks when I've gotten 0 hours, 4 hours... then sometimes I'll get 26. (That's the nature of the beast called Kroger)

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Because that how it is.

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store815 wrote:

Because that how it is.


Wow, thanks! What a thoroughly, all-inclusive answer that left absolutely NO stone unturned.

We can definitely put this whole issue to bed now.



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store815 wrote:

Because that how it is.


This is overwhelmingly helpful.



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store815 wrote:

Because that how it is.


Wow, thanks! What a thoroughly, all-inclusive answer that left absolutely NO stone unturned.

We can definitely put this whole issue to bed now.


Nocturnia...this makes me have a crush on you! I literally LOL'd at this.



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Lately the store has been going over budget . All I've been hearing from management is no hours and all this . All the new people they hired haven't been getting hours . One of the new baggers , she only got 4 hours this week and everybody else , their hours just got cut in half . Well I came up the stairs and another person got hired and all I could think to myself was why ? You don't have hours for the people you have now .


 Check your union contract here on this one. Most contracts state a minimum number of hours that they have to schedule someone. Unless there is extreeme limits, then one should have about 12 hours minimum thru most contracts. If this is not the case, then contact your rep and have them request changes or payment for the minumum hours (12) rather than just 4 hours.


we have baggers in my store that often get only 4-8 hours a week. but theyre still in school.



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AnonymousCutter wrote:

They dont want you to stay long...


but they need a certain number of employees to stay or else there's no one to move up and take the place of those who have had enough.



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Our stores hire to keep people from getting full time to fill the a ability gap and ECT...

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Well, management probably figured out that the employees they have are not cutting it and need to go, but they can't just go through and fire everyone without having new employees to fill those shoes. 

It sounds like laziness and bad attitudes have permeated throughout your store. If the existing employees were actually pulling their weight, then the store would not be over on hours in the first place, would it? 



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Is this the same Anonymous person on all the posts?
If you're a nurse, I hope I never get into an accident in your hospital. You really think the whole universe revolves around you don't you?

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It sounds like laziness and bad attitudes have permeated throughout your store. If the existing employees were actually pulling their weight, then the store would not be over on hours in the first place, would it? 


Really? It sounds that way? No, it doesn't. Because absolutely ZERO things were posted here that even remotely hinted at that being the case. Not a single thing.

Every employee here can testify that you can meet or exceed your company-mandated performance metrics and still not have enough hours to complete many tasks satisfactorily.



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Every employee here can testify that you can meet or exceed your company-mandated performance metrics and still not have enough hours to complete many tasks satisfactorily.


Truth here, and much of it. We never seemed to have enough hours to keep things going, and I usually had stong people that weren't lazy. Upper management plays a shell game with the hours, giving the great stores the bulk of the hours and the poor stores the scraps. We had one of the huge marketplace style stores in our district that had hours and OT thrown at it, and the rest of the distrct had to pick up the slack. We were often told "Help your bother out and cut hours!" Like I said, a shell game.



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techelite wrote:

Every employee here can testify that you can meet or exceed your company-mandated performance metrics and still not have enough hours to complete many tasks satisfactorily.


Truth here, and much of it. We never seemed to have enough hours to keep things going, and I usually had stong people that weren't lazy. Upper management plays a shell game with the hours, giving the great stores the bulk of the hours and the poor stores the scraps. We had one of the huge marketplace style stores in our district that had hours and OT thrown at it, and the rest of the distrct had to pick up the slack. We were often told "Help your bother out and cut hours!" Like I said, a shell game.


That already happens here with a marketplace store down the street which wasn't even in our district. As of this past sunday, they ARE in our district now. I don't see it getting better anytime soon.



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