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Okay so I wand hired in as an Bagger and then later on asked to be trained as cashier but was just cross trained but while I was cross trained the store hired new cashiers should be higher up then them because my manager says my seniory goes down to when I switched to cashier (promoted) not my hire date I work in a Kroger in Indiana 



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I think that's ridiculous. Your seniority should go by your hire date, not a dumb (promotion date). If you get less hours than someone who's not been there as long as you have, then that's breaking seniority anyways! You should talk to your store manager about that, because I've never  of that before.



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I highly suspect your manager is bull****ting you. The typical seniority is when you're hired on with the company. In my contract the seniority at that store is reset when the new year begins. I would call your union representative and let him clarify for you.

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I suspect foul play well. If you were trained as a cashier and could perform those duties, you would have more seniority than less senior employees. There is usually a difference in pay was well.

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That's actually how it works. Well, only for baggers at least. Bagger jobs are considered to be something like a special job in the store; less benefits and such. When you switch to one department to another, you keep your seniority, UNLESS you're a bagger. Baggers have to start at the bottom of the food chain if they ever get put into another department. Your store seniority only entitles you to vacations and possibly health benefits as a bagger, but that's it.

So, one might ask, if someone is a bagger for so long, what's the point of going to another position if you are at the bottom of seniority and get the least amount of hours? There is none.



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Sounds like there needs to be some complaining about contract language at the union meeting.

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Yes your senioity is based on hire date. I was a bagger and some one got promoted before me who was hired after me. When I got promoted I was higher became higher then him..

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store815 wrote:

Yes your senioity is based on hire date. I was a bagger and some one got promoted before me who was hired after me. When I got promoted I was higher became higher then him..


 This is false information. Your states, and thus your union contracts, are obviously different. Indiana is one of the "midwest" states, where baggers hire date seniority and classification seniority are different. Please, think before you type.



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Long and short of it is this for Indiana.
Your seniority as a bagger only counts up front among baggers.
If you get promoted, it is like being a new hire for hours and schedule preference.

Lets say you presently get 32-39 hours a week as a bagger. If you accepted a promotion to cashier, you could be getting around 4-10 hours. It would be a pay cut.
In my store there are a lot of senior cashiers who look to be lifers. For me, I would never gain seniority enough to make the promotion fully worth while.

Yep, basically you are a new hire again.

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So if I switch to lets say dairy will my cashier (promotion) seniority be appied or my hire date seniority 



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Think of it like this, your hire date is more or less irrelevant for hours and pay as soon as you stopped being a bagger, Only time as a "real" clerk counts. Dairy and cashier are both "real" clerks. There are some other nuances, but there will be some kind of seniority transfer if you move to dairy. That said, do not expect to get more hours than any current dairy clerks if you make the move.

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A lot of contracts have language that states something to the effect of, "clerks moved a higher classification will begin a new seniority date for hiring purposes only."

Meaning any promotion to a higher classification puts you at the bottom of the totem pole.



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The exact wording for the local 1995 contract is as follows:

"The Courtesy Clerks' service shall not be considered in determining his or her rate of pay upon promotion to part time or full time clerk."

It also states that courtesy clerks can work up to 40 hours per week and not go full time as long as they stay in the courtesy clerk classification.



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So, what they're saying is, if you're a courtesy clerk..you are their bitch.

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So, what they're saying is, if you're a courtesy clerk..you are their bitch.


 Indeed. I heard some can get directly promoted to utility clerk though and keep their seniority. Not sure if that's true or not.



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