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So i have been with the company for almost 2 years and I worked my way into a department as someones backup. Actually I have been trained to work 3 departments. i make only 7.65 I am not sure if theres a full time position available at my store but if there was how qualified would i be? I know that its all about senority but i think most of the people who have been there already have full time with the exception of 2. what are my chances of getting it? Im not in college, And i was planning on just working my way up at kroger, but i recently got engaged and now its not about just me anymore. We could use the money. i dont care for the benefits just the pay. I cant afford to stay there at the same pay ratae for 3 yrs. advice????



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You're a backup and you're not full time?

I've never heard of that before. :X

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yup Ive been back up for 2 departments for about 5 months now. biggrin bt someone retired so now im just on one. still i feel like i know too much to be making so little but i stay because i like my job the invested a lot in me to just leave u know.



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So i have been with the company for almost 2 years and I worked my way into a department as someones backup. Actually I have been trained to work 3 departments. i make only 7.65 I am not sure if theres a full time position available at my store but if there was how qualified would i be? I know that its all about senority but i think most of the people who have been there already have full time with the exception of 2. what are my chances of getting it? Im not in college, And i was planning on just working my way up at kroger, but i recently got engaged and now its not about just me anymore. We could use the money. i dont care for the benefits just the pay. I cant afford to stay there at the same pay ratae for 3 yrs. advice????


 

Almost sounds like you have a classification issue. You've been working 3 years and have never recieved a raise? Within about 3.5 years of roughly full-time work you'd be at the top step for your position and be a journeyman most likely. Maybe you've been classified as a courtesy clerk or a bagger the whole time, which don't seem to get raises.

Also never heard of a non-full time backup/assistant manager/etc. It kinda comes with the position! Extra responsibility especially on the manager's days off, but 40 hours guaranteed and a reasonable raise. I'd call your union rep pronto and tell them you're doing jobs on a daily basis that you're not classified as and not getting paid for!

 



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advice is to go to a better job cause it sounds like you're getting it up the rear end.



-- Edited by styles on Thursday 18th of April 2013 09:58:29 AM

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So i have been with the company for almost 2 years and I worked my way into a department as someones backup. Actually I have been trained to work 3 departments. i make only 7.65 I am not sure if theres a full time position available at my store but if there was how qualified would i be? I know that its all about senority but i think most of the people who have been there already have full time with the exception of 2. what are my chances of getting it? Im not in college, And i was planning on just working my way up at kroger, but i recently got engaged and now its not about just me anymore. We could use the money. i dont care for the benefits just the pay. I cant afford to stay there at the same pay ratae for 3 yrs. advice????


 

Almost sounds like you have a classification issue. You've been working 3 years and have never recieved a raise? Within about 3.5 years of roughly full-time work you'd be at the top step for your position and be a journeyman most likely. Maybe you've been classified as a courtesy clerk or a bagger the whole time, which don't seem to get raises.

Also never heard of a non-full time backup/assistant manager/etc. It kinda comes with the position! Extra responsibility especially on the manager's days off, but 40 hours guaranteed and a reasonable raise. I'd call your union rep pronto and tell them you're doing jobs on a daily basis that you're not classified as and not getting paid for!

 


 Backups being full time is not mandatory. It's best practice to have someone you're invested in as a backup but I know at least one person at my store that's a backup and is part time. I've been offered a backup position before but declined due to me being part time. I refuse to make out orders for the same reason. They want me to do the heavy lifting? They will invest in me and my future. I'm here to make money and my money better reflect the work I do.

Also, good luck on getting full time. There should be a chart up stairs that shows seniority dates on it. I'd check it out to see who's ahead of you and ask your manager if there are any full time positions available.



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Fishy wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

So i have been with the company for almost 2 years and I worked my way into a department as someones backup. Actually I have been trained to work 3 departments. i make only 7.65 I am not sure if theres a full time position available at my store but if there was how qualified would i be? I know that its all about senority but i think most of the people who have been there already have full time with the exception of 2. what are my chances of getting it? Im not in college, And i was planning on just working my way up at kroger, but i recently got engaged and now its not about just me anymore. We could use the money. i dont care for the benefits just the pay. I cant afford to stay there at the same pay ratae for 3 yrs. advice????


 

Almost sounds like you have a classification issue. You've been working 3 years and have never recieved a raise? Within about 3.5 years of roughly full-time work you'd be at the top step for your position and be a journeyman most likely. Maybe you've been classified as a courtesy clerk or a bagger the whole time, which don't seem to get raises.

Also never heard of a non-full time backup/assistant manager/etc. It kinda comes with the position! Extra responsibility especially on the manager's days off, but 40 hours guaranteed and a reasonable raise. I'd call your union rep pronto and tell them you're doing jobs on a daily basis that you're not classified as and not getting paid for!

 


 Backups being full time is not mandatory. It's best practice to have someone you're invested in as a backup but I know at least one person at my store that's a backup and is part time. I've been offered a backup position before but declined due to me being part time. I refuse to make out orders for the same reason. They want me to do the heavy lifting? They will invest in me and my future. I'm here to make money and my money better reflect the work I do.

Also, good luck on getting full time. There should be a chart up stairs that shows seniority dates on it. I'd check it out to see who's ahead of you and ask your manager if there are any full time positions available.


 

Just goes to show the differences in between the Kroger divisions. Every department in every FredMeyer has a Manager and Assistant Manager, designated and full time. Even the slowest store possible (Hazel Dell, #140) still adheres to that. For instance the "Store Director Memo" pertaining to Seafood department hours sets a minimum of 112 hours. It's independent of volume or how many hours the store gets. Which gives you 40 for Manager, 40 for "assistant manager" (really just someone designated as such, and moved to Journeyman status on appointment to the position, and recieves the pay rate, 12.85/hr) and 32 for a clerk. Some stores started trying to hire in another clerk and give them only 12 hours, and reduce the 32 hour person to 20. The union was able to beat that off, beacuse if someone is in an department and willing to work hours, seniority dictates that they are offered the shifts before anyone else. Only if their availability was less than 32 hours would you hire in someone else. Corporate tried to claim that PT20 meant you only had to be scheduled 20 hours, but thats a minimum status, not maximum.

There was also the issue of nobody being able to work in meat/seafood other than meat/seafood employees since its a separate contract. This always led to huge problems when someone called out or quit. Two people would mean both working every day! Major OT. Stores would offer hours to deli folks but the union would get pissed off a bit, and say they need to get paid the seafood clerk rate when they work in seafood instead of their deli rate which would be a bit lower. There was a compromise eventually worked out, where all seafood employees had to be called and offered extra hours or OT, and if nobody accepted then the store management was suppsoed to work the shift (but never would), and then and only then could the hours be offered to someone else in the store. So in practice they just started using deli employees to fill shifts, which is fine. I had a vacancy and the deli fill-in did a great job, so I had them ask to transfer over! Good way to move people out of Deli Hell.

 



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we've had backups that were not full time before.  it's supposed to be full time but i guess practically speaking isn't always.

i've been wondering about the plusses of full time.  the schedule would be more stable but for me half the fun of part time is random calls to come to work or cover shifts.  i like the flexibility.  being full time is almost like a straight jacket.  

if you take up slack in one spot, you have to cut elsewhere in the week.  i dunno if it's worth doing for an extra nickel per hour at the next raise. 



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I work in a million Dollar store and most departments have full time managers , backups, and 3rd in lines. However, nutrition, scan, floral, and fuel are not given full time back up spots. Which department are you a backup in? Also consider transfer to a store that needs a back up. 

 

-front end back up, Atlanta division 



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