Does anyone else think its ridiculous that a simple meat clerk makes more money than a meat cutter? I thought cutting meat was a trade, a specialty deal like cake decorating or something. Kroger pays their baggers more or as much as their meat cutters, how in the world does that make any sense?You go to central market or whole foods or costco! and the meat cutters are getting paid $15-$25 an hour depending on what level they are (apprentice, journeyman) which by the way neither of those titles exist at Kroger. Its ridiculous they can open new store after new store but they can't pay their emplyees what theyre worth, and that is not just being said for meat department. Floral managers, Seafood managers, Bakery managers, and so on make less than half of market managers, deli managers, and produce managers. WTH Smaller departments? YES, less help? YES JUST AS MUCH WORK AS OTHER DEPARTMENTS im calling bs not that i matter. Just a matter of time, i'll move on like most everyone that starts here with high hopes to some where i can at least get paid to be unappreciated, being under paid and under appreciated feels like a job I had in high school not as an adult. We're supposed to be loyal to a company that won't look at its employees? riiiiight good job dave dillon, thats a good way to keep your company around. Want highly satisfied customers? Start with some what satisfied employees....
It's not going away. Meat cutting is NOT a skill; it's something an orangutan can learn. Now, if we're talking construction of a building, electrical conduit re wiring or a plumbing over haul? Something a LIL' above 3 x 5 = clock out time/12 pack? THAT is something that requires skill, smarts and education.
Seriously: You own a business, why you gonna pay some body top dollar for the same work you can get from a minimum wage dead beat? Not saying it's nice: Just a reality.
Obviously Nocturnia has never actually seen real meat cutters since Walmart doesn't have any meat cutters. An Orangutan just can't cut meat. There is a certain way of doing and presenting it to the customers. Yes, you might be able to do SOME of it, but not all of it. Do you know which part of the Sirloin Tip to cut in order to get a nice perfectly lean thin steak for Milensa? Doubt lt. Meat Cutting is skilled labor and it has gotten easier, but there are some meat cutters who are chop and slop, but I prefer to go for perfection.
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Does your contract not have a seprate section for meat cutters?? Yes a monkey can lean to cut meat, but its going to cost the retailer alot of money in shrink than someone who can merchandise properly and you just just learn that by just picking up a knife and going to cut things. You have to be shown how to do this, and that's not a skilled trade? It's a fast paced cold dangerous job that not everyone wants to do. and I can do plumbing and also know roof construction and electrical is not that difficult to learn either, my dad owned a licensed house construction business. And he learned everything on the job!!
Any idiot can pick up a box of cereal and put it with the other like cereal, lets see that same someone pick up a bottom round and turn it into cube steaks.
Any idiot can pick up a box of cereal and put it with the other like cereal, lets see that same someone pick up a bottom round and turn it into cube steaks.
pectoral meat not bottom round. there is a slight cost difference in the two. If you run out of pectoral you use top round, bottom round, eye of round, etc.
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No one's pointed out the fact that there's no way a bagger is making more than a meat cutter.
Baggers are screwed over in the contracts.
And you're only complaining about department managers. Is it unfair that a bakery manager makes less than a deli manager? Yes. But you know what's more unfair? That the employees making $8 do double the work of the department manager for much less pay.
Well back in the day being a butcher or meat cutter was a trade. Nowadays there are very few true journeymen meat cutters left. When all the meat comes pre packaged from Mexico then what cutting is there to do? Very little! What we are transitioning to is glorified meat clerks that spend 90% of their workday stocking cases with box or pre pack meat. So you run a cuber or a slicer a little- doesn't make you a butcher. Some of the clerks today couldn't tell you the difference between a pork chop, a T-bone steak, or chicken legs- they don't need to know they just need to stock the cases and put the empty boxes in the baler. If you want to be paid like a butcher then go work at a real meat cutting shop- if you can still find one.
Well back in the day being a butcher or meat cutter was a trade. Nowadays there are very few true journeymen meat cutters left. When all the meat comes pre packaged from Mexico then what cutting is there to do? Very little! What we are transitioning to is glorified meat clerks that spend 90% of their workday stocking cases with box or pre pack meat. So you run a cuber or a slicer a little- doesn't make you a butcher. Some of the clerks today couldn't tell you the difference between a pork chop, a T-bone steak, or chicken legs- they don't need to know they just need to stock the cases and put the empty boxes in the baler. If you want to be paid like a butcher then go work at a real meat cutting shop- if you can still find one.
Believe it or not, this was actually what I meant by my poorly-worded response. My sincere apologies to Meat Cutters, I know y'all work hard and receive solid training.
Kroger Southwest wont go prepackage beef with the threat of HEB looming. They tried prepack beef a few years ago when we went on strike and they ended up losing their ass over it.
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there is a major difference in a butcher and meat cutter but simply cutting the meat isnt all of the job. There is a reason customers dont ask a courtesy clerk which cut of meat is best for a pot roast or for fajitas. Whats a bottom sirloin? I had market managers tell me there was no such thing, it was only a few months later kroger started carrying bottom sirloin IE TriTip. Customers will ask the difference between select choice and prime. There are so many things meat cutters have to know alone with cutting the meat to assist the people who want to buy it. Its a trade. Kroger is the only company paying meat cutters less than $15 an hour starting. As far as talking a lot about managers, There are always people in positions they dont deserve or they take advantage of that doesnt mean the ones who do it right should fall under that category. A lot of managers have to pick up the pieces regularly and yes a lot of employees work harder than their boss everyone is different but they should all be paid better, and if kroger cared about their employees they would notice the managers that shouldnt be managers and change it as well as clerks.
Any idiot can pick up a box of cereal and put it with the other like cereal, lets see that same someone pick up a bottom round and turn it into cube steaks.
lol, Hey, I work in the grocery department. No, stocking cereal isn't rocket science but not all idiots can do it well.
My main grocery manager has no clue how to stock cereal. He's been in retail since 1967 and he screws up the cereal aisle everytime he tries to run something. Any aisle he runs actually. I swear he runs down the aisle with backstock and throws it everywhere like break crumbs. The products are supposed to be displayed on the edge of the shelf. He will push the cereal in to get more on the shelf and just leave it half an inch from the edge. When he pushes hard enough, he breaks the backboard out of the back. They replaced all the backboards during one of our remodels and he has already broken half of them out throughout the entire grocery aisles again!! Don't get me started on top shelf cereal. Out shelves are 6 feet high. The standard I have been taught is fill the shelf normal and then lay 2 boxes flat on top. I can always tell when he tried to run cereal. The top shelf boxes are 9 feet high!! OK, maybe only 7.5 feet high. I spend more time cleaning up after him than doing real work...
Any idiot can pick up a box of cereal and put it with the other like cereal, lets see that same someone pick up a bottom round and turn it into cube steaks.
lol, Hey, I work in the grocery department. No, stocking cereal isn't rocket science but not all idiots can do it well.
My main grocery manager has no clue how to stock cereal. He's been in retail since 1967 and he screws up the cereal aisle everytime he tries to run something. Any aisle he runs actually. I swear he runs down the aisle with backstock and throws it everywhere like break crumbs. The products are supposed to be displayed on the edge of the shelf. He will push the cereal in to get more on the shelf and just leave it half an inch from the edge. When he pushes hard enough, he breaks the backboard out of the back. They replaced all the backboards during one of our remodels and he has already broken half of them out throughout the entire grocery aisles again!! Don't get me started on top shelf cereal. Out shelves are 6 feet high. The standard I have been taught is fill the shelf normal and then lay 2 boxes flat on top. I can always tell when he tried to run cereal. The top shelf boxes are 9 feet high!! OK, maybe only 7.5 feet high. I spend more time cleaning up after him than doing real work...
PS. I love fajitas. We need a Taco Cabana here up north. I finally found a Mexican restaurant with great enchiladas but the fajitas weren't all that great.
And, no, I do not know how to cut meat and do agree that it is a lost art or skill or trade.
I do know I am glad I hired in after the meet tracks were removed!! I heard it was also an art getting the side of beef off the truck into the store. You were screwed if you missed the rail....
there is a major difference in a butcher and meat cutter but simply cutting the meat isnt all of the job. There is a reason customers dont ask a courtesy clerk which cut of meat is best for a pot roast or for fajitas. Whats a bottom sirloin? I had market managers tell me there was no such thing, it was only a few months later kroger started carrying bottom sirloin IE TriTip. Customers will ask the difference between select choice and prime. There are so many things meat cutters have to know alone with cutting the meat to assist the people who want to buy it. Its a trade. Kroger is the only company paying meat cutters less than $15 an hour starting. As far as talking a lot about managers, There are always people in positions they dont deserve or they take advantage of that doesnt mean the ones who do it right should fall under that category. A lot of managers have to pick up the pieces regularly and yes a lot of employees work harder than their boss everyone is different but they should all be paid better, and if kroger cared about their employees they would notice the managers that shouldnt be managers and change it as well as clerks.
The market manager is obviously a fool. I've dealt with many cuts of beef over the past few years. I bet there are those who would tell you they've never have heard of a Pikes Peak Roast either. or what a whole round would look like for that matter or even break down a 7 bone chuck roast primal into mock tender roasts/steaks, neck bones, and bone-in chuck roasts.
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lmao meat cutting is a skill .. tell that to the grocery chain that your working for that wants a margin from every peice of meat,, beef, pork, chicken, fish for their profit margin!!!!!!! lmao you are a fake!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kroger Southwest wont go prepackage beef with the threat of HEB looming. They tried prepack beef a few years ago when we went on strike and they ended up losing their ass over it.
