I am not sure how you do it, but in grocery, we do an order review. It consists of checking low spots and ordering sales items. The computer usually orders the products we need automatically. A few products need to be manually ordered. There is a way to see what the computer is already ordering if you look at the open order in CAO on the computer. "Writing" an order usually means the managers trust you(wanting to help you advance) or they are really desperate.
Other departments order differently. You need to be familiar with which products fly off the shelf so you don't over order and have a ton of backstock.
I am not sure how you do it, but in grocery, we do an order review. It consists of checking low spots and ordering sales items. The computer usually orders the products we need automatically. A few products need to be manually ordered. There is a way to see what the computer is already ordering if you look at the open order in CAO on the computer. "Writing" an order usually means the managers trust you(wanting to help you advance) or they are really desperate.
Other departments order differently. You need to be familiar with which products fly off the shelf so you don't over order and have a ton of backstock.
i'm a part-timer and am a firm believer that greater responsibility should come with greater pay and will do everything I can to avoid things like this if I can. they can trust me all they want but I refuse to work min wage and do the work of a department head. the head is here and wants me to do it? BAH.
my ordering works the same way as yours but cao is always way off.
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I am not sure how you do it, but in grocery, we do an order review. It consists of checking low spots and ordering sales items. The computer usually orders the products we need automatically. A few products need to be manually ordered. There is a way to see what the computer is already ordering if you look at the open order in CAO on the computer. "Writing" an order usually means the managers trust you(wanting to help you advance) or they are really desperate.
Other departments order differently. You need to be familiar with which products fly off the shelf so you don't over order and have a ton of backstock.
i'm a part-timer and am a firm believer that greater responsibility should come with greater pay and will do everything I can to avoid things like this if I can. they can trust me all they want but I refuse to work min wage and do the work of a department head. the head is here and wants me to do it? BAH.
my ordering works the same way as yours but cao is always way off.
I am not sure how you do it, but in grocery, we do an order review. It consists of checking low spots and ordering sales items. The computer usually orders the products we need automatically. A few products need to be manually ordered. There is a way to see what the computer is already ordering if you look at the open order in CAO on the computer. "Writing" an order usually means the managers trust you(wanting to help you advance) or they are really desperate.
Other departments order differently. You need to be familiar with which products fly off the shelf so you don't over order and have a ton of backstock.
i'm a part-timer and am a firm believer that greater responsibility should come with greater pay and will do everything I can to avoid things like this if I can. they can trust me all they want but I refuse to work min wage and do the work of a department head. the head is here and wants me to do it? BAH.
my ordering works the same way as yours but cao is always way off.
Me thinks you need to find another job.
please sir do go on
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Would you like fries with th... I mean, your milk in a bag?
I am not sure how you do it, but in grocery, we do an order review. It consists of checking low spots and ordering sales items. The computer usually orders the products we need automatically. A few products need to be manually ordered. There is a way to see what the computer is already ordering if you look at the open order in CAO on the computer. "Writing" an order usually means the managers trust you(wanting to help you advance) or they are really desperate.
Other departments order differently. You need to be familiar with which products fly off the shelf so you don't over order and have a ton of backstock.
i'm a part-timer and am a firm believer that greater responsibility should come with greater pay and will do everything I can to avoid things like this if I can. they can trust me all they want but I refuse to work min wage and do the work of a department head. the head is here and wants me to do it? BAH.
my ordering works the same way as yours but cao is always way off.
Do you always want to be a part timer?
I am a part timer but not at min wage anymore. I am the back-up to the back-up. I do order reviews on Sunday nights and when my manager takes days off with the back-up. They just took 4 days off in a row and the store manager said I did a great job. The only way to be a full time employee is to sign manager bids in my district. You need as much working experience as possible. That is my goal currently. If you avoid it, you might end up with some snot nosed kid as your manager one day.
I am a part timer but not at min wage anymore. I am the back-up to the back-up. I do order reviews on Sunday nights and when my manager takes days off with the back-up. They just took 4 days off in a row and the store manager said I did a great job. The only way to be a full time employee is to sign manager bids in my district. You need as much working experience as possible. That is my goal currently. If you avoid it, you might end up with some snot nosed kid as your manager one day.
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Do you mean the BOHs are wrong or CAO is overforecasting? That is another clerk responsibility. Always scan backstock before putting it on backstock cart. Can't help with the over forecasting because we have that issue too. There are certain items I will remove from the order if I remember and if we don't need it.
I am a part timer but not at min wage anymore. I am the back-up to the back-up. I do order reviews on Sunday nights and when my manager takes days off with the back-up. They just took 4 days off in a row and the store manager said I did a great job. The only way to be a full time employee is to sign manager bids in my district. You need as much working experience as possible. That is my goal currently. If you avoid it, you might end up with some snot nosed kid as your manager one day.
PS.
Do you mean the BOHs are wrong or CAO is overforecasting? That is another clerk responsibility. Always scan backstock before putting it on backstock cart. Can't help with the over forecasting because we have that issue too. There are certain items I will remove from the order if I remember and if we don't need it.
it overforcasts... a lot... everytime.
it's not like I don't know how to do it its the point of the matter. I've turned down several other positions because they sucked. when I become a backup for a department then it will be worth it but untill then they can stuff their annoying work.
I adore the people I work with I'm just not going to do work that is not meant for me.
I'll be fulltime in about 10 years so I'm not worried and don't care a whole lot about it
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Would you like fries with th... I mean, your milk in a bag?
"I adore the people I work with I'm just not going to do work that is not meant for me."- It is all about team work.
"I'll be fulltime in about 10 years so I'm not worried and don't care a whole lot about it"- I would not be so sure about that. They haven't opened a full time grocery bid in our store in over 10 years. We have 2 too many fulltimers on our schedule. When 2 retire or transfer, the full time positions will not be filled. The word among the old timers in my store is that corporate wants to fill the store with part timers and only have leads and managers full time. Filling bids is based on skill and ability not senority anymore due to the recent new contract we have.
I go above and beyond what my direct night manager does. I have a positive attitude. I am dead serious about my job when I need to be. I am familiar with every aspect of what my job would be as a grocery manager. I can adapt to anything management asks me to get done. I would make a damn good manager. I used to be turned down for bids because I didn't have enough senority. Now, I am being turned down because I don't have enough "skill and ability". I recently got turned down for 2 really good grocery positions at stores near me. The first store manager made it sound like the person he picked had much less senority than me but more skill and ability. I didn't ask the second store manager because I didn't want to know how much senority the selected person had. On the second interview, I knew I blew it. The questions were a mindbender and I was extremely exhausted before I got there. I will be better prepared for the next interview.
Good luck on your endeavors. Stay positive and don't get stuck in the not my job rut.
You should not have to do orders when the department head is there. they get paid more because that is their responsibility. Refuse to do orders when they are there.
You should not have to do orders when the department head is there. they get paid more because that is their responsibility. Refuse to do orders when they are there.
Exactly!
Anonymous wrote:
"I adore the people I work with I'm just not going to do work that is not meant for me."- It is all about team work.
"I'll be fulltime in about 10 years so I'm not worried and don't care a whole lot about it"- I would not be so sure about that. They haven't opened a full time grocery bid in our store in over 10 years. We have 2 too many fulltimers on our schedule. When 2 retire or transfer, the full time positions will not be filled. The word among the old timers in my store is that corporate wants to fill the store with part timers and only have leads and managers full time. Filling bids is based on skill and ability not senority anymore due to the recent new contract we have.
I go above and beyond what my direct night manager does. I have a positive attitude. I am dead serious about my job when I need to be. I am familiar with every aspect of what my job would be as a grocery manager. I can adapt to anything management asks me to get done. I would make a damn good manager. I used to be turned down for bids because I didn't have enough senority. Now, I am being turned down because I don't have enough "skill and ability". I recently got turned down for 2 really good grocery positions at stores near me. The first store manager made it sound like the person he picked had much less senority than me but more skill and ability. I didn't ask the second store manager because I didn't want to know how much senority the selected person had. On the second interview, I knew I blew it. The questions were a mindbender and I was extremely exhausted before I got there. I will be better prepared for the next interview.
Good luck on your endeavors. Stay positive and don't get stuck in the not my job rut.
I don't see Kroger as ever wanting good workers. You seem like a good worker. The reason why you've stuck around this long is beyond me. I understand that it's a "team effort" but when your department head walks around talking to other employees all day, coming to you only to say "so and so needs help when you're done with that" isn't someone who is a team player. The only things I seem him doing has been separating the order on days we don't get a truck, making orders, shooting holes, bails the bailer every now-and-then, and drinks coffee.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. If he would ever jump in and help from time to time I'd have a differing opinion of him but anytime i see him it's just to give me another order. It's to the point where I just want to avoid talking to him or just seeing him in general.
So when he says "I've been told that if you work it you have to order for it" forgive me if I am so rude as to ignore that request. If it was a joke then it wasn't a very funny one.
An on topic note: I didn't make out the order today.
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I don't see Kroger as ever wanting good workers. You seem like a good worker. The reason why you've stuck around this long is beyond me. I understand that it's a "team effort" but when your department head walks around talking to other employees all day, coming to you only to say "so and so needs help when you're done with that" isn't someone who is a team player. The only things I seem him doing has been separating the order on days we don't get a truck, making orders, shooting holes, bails the bailer every now-and-then, and drinks coffee.
EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. If he would ever jump in and help from time to time I'd have a differing opinion of him but anytime i see him it's just to give me another order. It's to the point where I just want to avoid talking to him or just seeing him in general.
So when he says "I've been told that if you work it you have to order for it" forgive me if I am so rude as to ignore that request. If it was a joke then it wasn't a very funny one.
An on topic note: I didn't make out the order today.
I understand where you are coming from. I am a good worker and I see exactly what you described from mostly dayshift people. Your store has the exact same issues as my store. I ignore it and follow my own instinct. You can either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
I have a day grocery manager and a night shift grocery manager. I think per Key Retailing, the day manager is not supposed to be doing much work. His duties are: Fill out DDP, order day grocery, display shippers, shoot holes, make day schedule, direct his day workers for KMP grocery, Dairy and Frozen. And replenish stock(holes). He has been with Kroger for over 45 years. If he didn't run stock, the day work would not get done. I do not think the night manager is supposed to do any labor either. His duties include: Order night grocery, replenish ends, unload truck, make night schedule, and direct his crew. He's been with Kroger for 42 years. He was telling me that the store manager asked him to run less stock(shouldn't be a problem..hint) and only manage the night crew.
I think the corporate goal at our store is to have only managers and leaders full time. The rest of the workers to be part time 28 hour a week employees. I plan to be a full time employee somehow some day. I am also hoping corporate planners realize soon how they are going to attract halfassed employees that will work to drive sales down because of the low pay and low hours. I realize to stay competitive in retail, corporate needs to lower wages. It would be better to hire people that want to be there, enjoy what they are doing, strive to meet goals and earn a decent pay. I enjoy retail. I also have side businesses for extra income so hours and wages don't stresss me out. I am on a decent contract and top pay is decent(3 more months).
I am a part timer but not at min wage anymore. I am the back-up to the back-up. I do order reviews on Sunday nights and when my manager takes days off with the back-up. They just took 4 days off in a row and the store manager said I did a great job. The only way to be a full time employee is to sign manager bids in my district. You need as much working experience as possible. That is my goal currently. If you avoid it, you might end up with some snot nosed kid as your manager one day.
PS.
Do you mean the BOHs are wrong or CAO is overforecasting? That is another clerk responsibility. Always scan backstock before putting it on backstock cart. Can't help with the over forecasting because we have that issue too. There are certain items I will remove from the order if I remember and if we don't need it.
it overforcasts... a lot... everytime.
it's not like I don't know how to do it its the point of the matter. I've turned down several other positions because they sucked. when I become a backup for a department then it will be worth it but untill then they can stuff their annoying work.
I adore the people I work with I'm just not going to do work that is not meant for me.
I'll be fulltime in about 10 years so I'm not worried and don't care a whole lot about it
You will never be Full-time because you already demonstrated that you are not worth the investment...to move up or have the company take you seriously, they need to see that YOU are committed to learning all you can about your job and that includes ordering and CAO maintenance...as for CAO over-forecasting, it's not your job to cut orders down...since you take no interest in the department, you are clueless to sales and display planning for which those extra cases might be ordered. In that instance, leave it alone and notify your supervisor of your concern...
PS. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING YOU DO IN CAO is logged with your euid. If you Cut orders, change BOHs and MINs, increase orders maliciously, you name it, it can all be traced back to you...you will be disciplined or terminated...
You should not have to do orders when the department head is there. they get paid more because that is their responsibility. Refuse to do orders when they are there.
The department head's responsibility goes beyond ordering and supervising...they have to maintain overall functionality of the store, including checking cooler/freezer temps, generator functionality, sales/scheduling planning, supervising and deligating tasks and responsibilities (that involves talking to people), coordinate with other departments on interdepartmental displays, over sees dairy-frozen-dsd-bread-dry grocery departments, verify bills for shortages and errors, maintain display product pricing integrity, respond to customer requests and special orders AND anything else that gets thrown their way...
Compared to all that, you have it easy just putting up stock, conditioning, run backstock, performing scans and ordering...
You shouldn't judge your department head's job unless you've done it or have a full understanding of what's involved...they at least know exactly what you're faced with on a daily basis because they were in your shoes at one point...
Your lack of understanding your job duties baffles me...by ordering, you are in control of what comes in and you won't get any surprises...(except for distributions which we can't control)
The way the store is structured, the ranking goes ad follows:
What I meant to stay if you have a telzon and you scan something and it wants 10 ordered when you know you don't need it zero it out but dont walk around the store and do an order.
What I meant to stay if you have a telzon and you scan something and it wants 10 ordered when you know you don't need it zero it out but dont walk around the store and do an order.
Again, your departmet head or manager or backup could have ordered those extra 10 cases to build a display for an upcoming sales promotion...or it could be that your MIN is too high or an item is currently on sale...in any case, let your department head or backup be the on to zero that item out if it's truly unnecessary, that way you're EUID won't be logged as having deleted that item from the order and you won't get in trouble...
