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Significant incident report is it a write up?  They just had me sign one for failure to follow instructions.



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sounds like a write up to me! just with a funny name. was a union steward present?  why did you sign it? or even better---- why are you not following instruction?



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My understanding is, and I may be wrong this as I've never had one and am only going by what I heard, but it's basically equivalent to a "verbal warning" only in print form so there is a record of it. I think if it happens again, then an actual write up is done. I've seen them done on people for stuff like failing to fill up the change dispensers on express at night after counting the tills (supervisors), failing to leave one's register in a tidy state before leaving (cashiers), having a jacket on over one's uniform (cashiers), failing to follow coupon policy (supervisors/checkers), failing to follow check policy (supervisors/checkers) and so on. Sometimes, it's on something serious, other times, it's something I think is pretty minor.



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I got one for missing 3 days out of a 31 day period, even though the reason I missed those days was due to the flu.  Is it a contract year where you're at.  It is where I'm at, so managers nit pick over every little thing.



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If it's on paper, assume it's a write up under a different name. I could be wrong though. Verbal is by way of mouth, it is only documented/retained in your mind. On paper, it's put in your file where it lies "dormant" for a specified amount of time, waiting to reactivate itself, in case you go to arbritation if you get fired and try and et your job back.

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GenesisOne wrote:

I've seen them done on people for stuff like failing to fill up the change dispensers on express at night after counting the tills (supervisors), failing to leave one's register in a tidy state before leaving (cashiers), having a jacket on over one's uniform (cashiers), failing to follow coupon policy (supervisors/checkers), failing to follow check policy (supervisors/checkers) and so on. 


holy hell. what kind of gestapo runs that front end?  some of that stuff is nit picky.



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Significant incident report is it a write up?  They just had me sign one for failure to follow instructions.


 Yea, you got wrote up. 

People can spin this how ever it suits them, but if management went to the trouble of putting it all down on paper and then having you officiate it by signing it, that's one step towards them pushing you out the door. I've been quietly telling people for years: Unless you've got a smoking gun in your hand, don't. Sign. $HIT.



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GenesisOne wrote:

My understanding is, and I may be wrong this as I've never had one and am only going by what I heard, but it's basically equivalent to a "verbal warning" only in print form so there is a record of it. I think if it happens again, then an actual write up is done. I've seen them done on people for stuff like failing to fill up the change dispensers on express at night after counting the tills (supervisors), failing to leave one's register in a tidy state before leaving (cashiers), having a jacket on over one's uniform (cashiers), failing to follow coupon policy (supervisors/checkers), failing to follow check policy (supervisors/checkers) and so on. Sometimes, it's on something serious, other times, it's something I think is pretty minor.


 It is and when they were first mentioned a certain co-manager was ecstatic about how they could be used to start writing people up and for holding them for their "accountability".  They're also suppose to be used to put "good" things into people's files, but how often do you think that happens? Never.



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GenesisOne wrote:

My understanding is, and I may be wrong this as I've never had one and am only going by what I heard, but it's basically equivalent to a "verbal warning" only in print form so there is a record of it. I think if it happens again, then an actual write up is done. I've seen them done on people for stuff like failing to fill up the change dispensers on express at night after counting the tills (supervisors), failing to leave one's register in a tidy state before leaving (cashiers), having a jacket on over one's uniform (cashiers), failing to follow coupon policy (supervisors/checkers), failing to follow check policy (supervisors/checkers) and so on. Sometimes, it's on something serious, other times, it's something I think is pretty minor.


 It is and when they were first mentioned a certain co-manager was ecstatic about how they could be used to start writing people up and for holding them for their "accountability".  They're also suppose to be used to put "good" things into people's files, but how often do you think that happens? Never.


I didn't even know these sheets of paper existed until like four months ago. Now, I see them pretty much everywhere. Accountability is a nice word and all, but no one is actually being held accountable for anything, so what's the point? Very few employees care enough to want to improve or do things the right way because Kroger as a company doesn't care about them and the pay/benefits are poor, plus management in the stores doesn't generally do a very good job coming up with ways to show appreciation towards for employees that strive to go above and beyond. No more free lunches for having one's name positively mentioned in the customer receipt tracker, hardly any RACE cards, nothing. Whether one does his or her job well or poor, it's all the same, so the general attitude becomes, "who cares?" but Kroger doesn't have much of a choice in getting rid of those that don't care since, at least certain stores, are experiencing a problem getting applications in because nobody wants to work for one of the worst-paying, lowest-rated retail companies in America. Maybe if Kroger treated its employees more like... oh I don't know, local competitors like Costco, or even Albertsons and Tom Thumb, maybe more people would want to apply there.



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GenesisOne wrot're also suppose to be used to put "good" things into people's files, but how often do you think that happens? Never.

I didn't even know these sheets of paper existed until like four months ago. Now, I see them pretty much everywhere. Accountability is a nice word and all, but no one is actually being held accountable for anything, so what's the point? Very few employees care enough to want to improve or do things the right way because Kroger as a company doesn't care about them and the pay/benefits are poor, plus management in the stores doesn't generally do a very good job coming up with ways to show appreciation towards for employees that strive to go above and beyond. No more free lunches for having one's name positively mentioned in the customer receipt tracker, hardly any RACE cards, nothing. Whether one does his or her job well or poor, it's all the same, so the general attitude becomes, "who cares?" but Kroger doesn't have much of a choice in getting rid of those that don't care since, at least certain stores, are experiencing a problem getting applications in because nobody wants to work for one of the worst-paying, lowest-rated retail companies in America. Maybe if Kroger treated its employees more like... oh I don't know, local competitors like Costco, or even Albertsons and Tom Thumb, maybe more people would want to apply there.


 I have had one person give me a bit of positive reinforcement about how i do my job. The rest of the time most of the employees and management are doing their stuff. Since i work by myself most of the time i do what i can and the rest is left alone. From what i have seen management puts on a nice smile/fake attitude like they care but they are so 'removed" in understanding what their employees are doing. As you have stated their is NOTHING there to help promote that attitude of "do your best".

Also if you dont sign a write up what are the consequences?? Can they fire you if you dont sign??



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Refusing to sign it just means that you don't agree with it.  Ours say that signature is optional on the form.  They always have another management witness.  If you wish to appeal it, then, management can't say that you signed it, thus agreeing with it.  99% of our write ups are for something like missing a temp check or coming in late.  Not much to appeal there.



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My understanding is, and I may be wrong this as I've never had one and am only going by what I heard, but it's basically equivalent to a "verbal warning" only in print form so there is a record of it. I think if it happens again, then an actual write up is done. I've seen them done on people for stuff like failing to fill up the change dispensers on express at night after counting the tills (supervisors), failing to leave one's register in a tidy state before leaving (cashiers), having a jacket on over one's uniform (cashiers), failing to follow coupon policy (supervisors/checkers), failing to follow check policy (supervisors/checkers) and so on. Sometimes, it's on something serious, other times, it's something I think is pretty minor.


 It is and when they were first mentioned a certain co-manager was ecstatic about how they could be used to start writing people up and for holding them for their "accountability".  They're also suppose to be used to put "good" things into people's files, but how often do you think that happens? Never.


I didn't even know these sheets of paper existed until like four months ago. Now, I see them pretty much everywhere. Accountability is a nice word and all, but no one is actually being held accountable for anything, so what's the point? Very few employees care enough to want to improve or do things the right way because Kroger as a company doesn't care about them and the pay/benefits are poor, plus management in the stores doesn't generally do a very good job coming up with ways to show appreciation towards for employees that strive to go above and beyond. No more free lunches for having one's name positively mentioned in the customer receipt tracker, hardly any RACE cards, nothing. Whether one does his or her job well or poor, it's all the same, so the general attitude becomes, "who cares?" but Kroger doesn't have much of a choice in getting rid of those that don't care since, at least certain stores, are experiencing a problem getting applications in because nobody wants to work for one of the worst-paying, lowest-rated retail companies in America. Maybe if Kroger treated its employees more like... oh I don't know, local competitors like Costco, or even Albertsons and Tom Thumb, maybe more people would want to apply there.


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A write up is still a legitimate write up EVEN if you don't sign. Not signing doesn't make it "go away" (write ups NEVER go away technically, they lie dormant in your file just waiting to reactivate themselves if you go yo arbritation)

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What happens if you refuse to sign a write up though? Will they say it's insubordination?

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They shouldn't. More than likely they will write in " refused to sign" on the documentation. You can appeal it saying you don't agree with it, but depending on the situation, it may or may not work.

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I didn't even know these sheets of paper existed until like four months ago. Now, I see them pretty much everywhere. Accountability is a nice word and all, but no one is actually being held accountable for anything, so what's the point? Very few employees care enough to want to improve or do things the right way because Kroger as a company doesn't care about them and the pay/benefits are poor, plus management in the stores doesn't generally do a very good job coming up with ways to show appreciation towards for employees that strive to go above and beyond. No more free lunches for having one's name positively mentioned in the customer receipt tracker, hardly any RACE cards, nothing. Whether one does his or her job well or poor, it's all the same, so the general attitude becomes, "who cares?" but Kroger doesn't have much of a choice in getting rid of those that don't care since, at least certain stores, are experiencing a problem getting applications in because nobody wants to work for one of the worst-paying, lowest-rated retail companies in America. Maybe if Kroger treated its employees more like... oh I don't know, local competitors like Costco, or even Albertsons and Tom Thumb, maybe more people would want to apply there.


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