Kroger sucks because they promote people who don't deserve it.Just like being in high school, who you like is who gets promoted. My store manager used to be a corporate person, stepped down and became a store manager. This person, screwed the boss, got pregnant, who fathered this child is hush hush, she still has a good paying job, is in a position of authority, and determines whether you will still have a job. The significant other doesn't work for the company anymore, but she still has a job. Kroger has no morals, no matter what they say. This person has major anger issues, I have seen her throw a phone , break a copier, and still have a job. She took a leave of absence shortly after that. Two months she was gone and she probably got paid for it. By the way, salaried peoples bonuses are based hugely on OSAT this year, why do you think they are promoting it? People who work for them are unhappy, employees are encouraged to do what managers should do without the pay. I don't care if you know who I am. I only work there because I need a paycheck. I am looking elsewhere, you should too.
I left at 10 months. It wasn't that my co-workers were bad, it was just being overworked and not getting even a thank you.
I worked in what is considered the most dramatic and hardest department in the store--deli. I was mainly a closer and because the department was short-staffed, it was hell trying to get anything done when there would literally be 2 people manning the department for 6-8 hours. Then it was the closers' fault that the deli looked like ****, or things didn't get done in the time allotted. Oh, yeah, no overtime, can't call anyone else in (even if they did, who would give up their day off? Full-timers never did).
I mean, this isn't exactly a Kroger issue, as it is an Employer issue in general. Most companies do that. When you work with people, it's natural to become friends with them over time. When you do, you find yourself having a more positive outlook on that person and will more readily go to bat for them when someone asks your opinion of them. Translate that to the work-force and well, it's not all that surprising that people who are friends with Management get promotions more easily than those who hang back and don't get noticed.
I've found this to be true with myself. I get OT like nobody's business because I've demonstrated that I'm reliable and have gotten all my managers to like me. I got SCO Trained as soon as the opportunity became available, and it's entirely likely that I'll be fast-tracked to PIC within a year, where as others have put in 3-4 years and have constantly been passed over. I don't like to tell people to "kiss ass" to get ahead, but sometimes it helps to be on good terms with those making the decisions so that when the time comes that they have to make a decision (Promotional for instance), you look good to them.
I mean, this isn't exactly a Kroger issue, as it is an Employer issue in general. Most companies do that. When you work with people, it's natural to become friends with them over time. When you do, you find yourself having a more positive outlook on that person and will more readily go to bat for them when someone asks your opinion of them. Translate that to the work-force and well, it's not all that surprising that people who are friends with Management get promotions more easily than those who hang back and don't get noticed.
I've found this to be true with myself. I get OT like nobody's business because I've demonstrated that I'm reliable and have gotten all my managers to like me. I got SCO Trained as soon as the opportunity became available, and it's entirely likely that I'll be fast-tracked to PIC within a year, where as others have put in 3-4 years and have constantly been passed over. I don't like to tell people to "kiss ass" to get ahead, but sometimes it helps to be on good terms with those making the decisions so that when the time comes that they have to make a decision (Promotional for instance), you look good to them.
You say "promotion" but you really mean side grade. The only real promotions are clerk > backup > full time clerk > lead and the money that they make is so small of an increase for the amount of work you have to do it's not really a good idea to even do it.
Everything else you make the same amount as everyone else no matter how hard you work.. there are no merit raises.
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I mean, this isn't exactly a Kroger issue, as it is an Employer issue in general. Most companies do that. When you work with people, it's natural to become friends with them over time. When you do, you find yourself having a more positive outlook on that person and will more readily go to bat for them when someone asks your opinion of them. Translate that to the work-force and well, it's not all that surprising that people who are friends with Management get promotions more easily than those who hang back and don't get noticed.
I've found this to be true with myself. I get OT like nobody's business because I've demonstrated that I'm reliable and have gotten all my managers to like me. I got SCO Trained as soon as the opportunity became available, and it's entirely likely that I'll be fast-tracked to PIC within a year, where as others have put in 3-4 years and have constantly been passed over. I don't like to tell people to "kiss ass" to get ahead, but sometimes it helps to be on good terms with those making the decisions so that when the time comes that they have to make a decision (Promotional for instance), you look good to them.
You say "promotion" but you really mean side grade. The only real promotions are clerk > backup > full time clerk > lead and the money that they make is so small of an increase for the amount of work you have to do it's not really a good idea to even do it.
Everything else you make the same amount as everyone else no matter how hard you work.. there are no merit raises.
True, it's usually by Title. However, if you're like me and plan on becoming at the very least, a 4th or higher, then you have to put in the time and merit to get noticed. The main goal is to get the title promotion so that if you need to transfer elsewhere (whether a different department, different store, or different job altogether), you have that title and experience.
Most of the people I work with are content with simply staying where they're at, putting in minimal effort. Unfortunately for them, that means minimal hours too. I've only been in my position for approx 7 months. Most of our Cashiers have been there (some significantly) longer, yet when names come up, I'm on a short list of people who they look towards. I won't say argue that Merit = Raises. However, I would put forth that Merit has its benefits.
The more reliable you are, and the more they like you, the more likely you are to move forward and get cross-trained and even get up the ladder if that's your goal. They're also more likely to work with you and accommodate when you request time off. I almost guarantee I could get certain days off that most people would kill to have (for instance the week of the 4th) simply by asking. I didn't because I don't mind working those weeks, but it's nice to know that I could if I wanted to.
I mean, this isn't exactly a Kroger issue, as it is an Employer issue in general. Most companies do that. When you work with people, it's natural to become friends with them over time. When you do, you find yourself having a more positive outlook on that person and will more readily go to bat for them when someone asks your opinion of them. Translate that to the work-force and well, it's not all that surprising that people who are friends with Management get promotions more easily than those who hang back and don't get noticed.
I've found this to be true with myself. I get OT like nobody's business because I've demonstrated that I'm reliable and have gotten all my managers to like me. I got SCO Trained as soon as the opportunity became available, and it's entirely likely that I'll be fast-tracked to PIC within a year, where as others have put in 3-4 years and have constantly been passed over. I don't like to tell people to "kiss ass" to get ahead, but sometimes it helps to be on good terms with those making the decisions so that when the time comes that they have to make a decision (Promotional for instance), you look good to them.
You say "promotion" but you really mean side grade. The only real promotions are clerk > backup > full time clerk > lead and the money that they make is so small of an increase for the amount of work you have to do it's not really a good idea to even do it.
Everything else you make the same amount as everyone else no matter how hard you work.. there are no merit raises.
True, it's usually by Title. However, if you're like me and plan on becoming at the very least, a 4th or higher, then you have to put in the time and merit to get noticed. The main goal is to get the title promotion so that if you need to transfer elsewhere (whether a different department, different store, or different job altogether), you have that title and experience.
Most of the people I work with are content with simply staying where they're at, putting in minimal effort. Unfortunately for them, that means minimal hours too. I've only been in my position for approx 7 months. Most of our Cashiers have been there (some significantly) longer, yet when names come up, I'm on a short list of people who they look towards. I won't say argue that Merit = Raises. However, I would put forth that Merit has its benefits.
The more reliable you are, and the more they like you, the more likely you are to move forward and get cross-trained and even get up the ladder if that's your goal. They're also more likely to work with you and accommodate when you request time off. I almost guarantee I could get certain days off that most people would kill to have (for instance the week of the 4th) simply by asking. I didn't because I don't mind working those weeks, but it's nice to know that I could if I wanted to.
You sound like a person that I would have fun screwing over :D
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I like that you get along with management so well! Keep working hard and when that position opens up, be prepared for others with seniority and employees from other stores coming out of the woodwork to take that away from you lol! One more thing, when that position does come up - who's to say your buddy manager will still be at your store? They move around a lot. Chance are your new manager may have a new favorite lol! I guess as long as you think you're so great that's all that really matters though. I don't see anyone else here bragging about you and I'm sure it's the same at your store.
Did you ever wonder why others don't want that position? I'm sure you will learn more if you stay at Kroger longer than 7 months. (I know, it's hard to believe isn't it, that you don't know it all)
They had a lady who was head of safety she stood on a cart and busted her head open while she was the head of safety....................... did she get fired hell no they bring her back in the stores and make her a store manager where she has gone on to harass people over and over till this day no one can understand how this person is still around.
I like that you get along with management so well! Keep working hard and when that position opens up, be prepared for others with seniority and employees from other stores coming out of the woodwork to take that away from you lol! One more thing, when that position does come up - who's to say your buddy manager will still be at your store? They move around a lot. Chance are your new manager may have a new favorite lol! I guess as long as you think you're so great that's all that really matters though. I don't see anyone else here bragging about you and I'm sure it's the same at your store.
Did you ever wonder why others don't want that position? I'm sure you will learn more if you stay at Kroger longer than 7 months. (I know, it's hard to believe isn't it, that you don't know it all)
I've been at Kroger well over 7 months. It's not just as a Cashier. The fact is, short of the service departments (Deli/Bakery/ect), I'm qualified to work any open position they have in the store at the moment. Hell, I have managers from OTHER departments come over and ask me to help out (not just "anyone available", but by name). The thing is, I don't consider myself as a "new favorite". I do consider myself to be highly reliable and competent at my job, which is noticed.
I know why these other people don't want the positions. It has little to do with the positions being "terrible", and more to do with the people simply not wanting the extra responsibility. The fact is, most people (not just in this job) are lazy and content to do the minimum needed to skate by. We have people who deliberately go slow so that they don't get asked to do extra things. I'm not like that however. I'm not content with simply being mediocre. If I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it well.
Besides, I've had Managers come and go. The concept of a Manager not liking me has never really bothered me. Make a good first impression, and you don't have to worry about it. You don't need to be a favorite for them to be willing to help you out and to have them recognize you as being a decent worker. Odds are, if management doesn't like you, you've probably given them a good reason.
And of course you don't see people bragging about me. I post under the "anonymous" tag.
I like that you get along with management so well! Keep working hard and when that position opens up, be prepared for others with seniority and employees from other stores coming out of the woodwork to take that away from you lol! One more thing, when that position does come up - who's to say your buddy manager will still be at your store? They move around a lot. Chance are your new manager may have a new favorite lol! I guess as long as you think you're so great that's all that really matters though. I don't see anyone else here bragging about you and I'm sure it's the same at your store.
Did you ever wonder why others don't want that position? I'm sure you will learn more if you stay at Kroger longer than 7 months. (I know, it's hard to believe isn't it, that you don't know it all)
I've been at Kroger well over 7 months. It's not just as a Cashier. The fact is, short of the service departments (Deli/Bakery/ect), I'm qualified to work any open position they have in the store at the moment. Hell, I have managers from OTHER departments come over and ask me to help out (not just "anyone available", but by name). The thing is, I don't consider myself as a "new favorite". I do consider myself to be highly reliable and competent at my job, which is noticed.
I know why these other people don't want the positions. It has little to do with the positions being "terrible", and more to do with the people simply not wanting the extra responsibility. The fact is, most people (not just in this job) are lazy and content to do the minimum needed to skate by. We have people who deliberately go slow so that they don't get asked to do extra things. I'm not like that however. I'm not content with simply being mediocre. If I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it well.
Besides, I've had Managers come and go. The concept of a Manager not liking me has never really bothered me. Make a good first impression, and you don't have to worry about it. You don't need to be a favorite for them to be willing to help you out and to have them recognize you as being a decent worker. Odds are, if management doesn't like you, you've probably given them a good reason.
And of course you don't see people bragging about me. I post under the "anonymous" tag.
" And of course you don't see people bragging about me. I post under the "anonymous" tag"...................Well that went over your head lol!
I like that you get along with management so well! Keep working hard and when that position opens up, be prepared for others with seniority and employees from other stores coming out of the woodwork to take that away from you lol! One more thing, when that position does come up - who's to say your buddy manager will still be at your store? They move around a lot. Chance are your new manager may have a new favorite lol! I guess as long as you think you're so great that's all that really matters though. I don't see anyone else here bragging about you and I'm sure it's the same at your store.
Did you ever wonder why others don't want that position? I'm sure you will learn more if you stay at Kroger longer than 7 months. (I know, it's hard to believe isn't it, that you don't know it all)
I've been at Kroger well over 7 months. It's not just as a Cashier. The fact is, short of the service departments (Deli/Bakery/ect), I'm qualified to work any open position they have in the store at the moment. Hell, I have managers from OTHER departments come over and ask me to help out (not just "anyone available", but by name). The thing is, I don't consider myself as a "new favorite". I do consider myself to be highly reliable and competent at my job, which is noticed.
I know why these other people don't want the positions. It has little to do with the positions being "terrible", and more to do with the people simply not wanting the extra responsibility. The fact is, most people (not just in this job) are lazy and content to do the minimum needed to skate by. We have people who deliberately go slow so that they don't get asked to do extra things. I'm not like that however. I'm not content with simply being mediocre. If I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it well.
Besides, I've had Managers come and go. The concept of a Manager not liking me has never really bothered me. Make a good first impression, and you don't have to worry about it. You don't need to be a favorite for them to be willing to help you out and to have them recognize you as being a decent worker. Odds are, if management doesn't like you, you've probably given them a good reason.
And of course you don't see people bragging about me. I post under the "anonymous" tag.
You're going to end up burning yourself out. I've seen it happen far too often around here for me to not, at least, tell you that much. You're going to end up offended by some little thing and go off the handle or be begging a doctor for Xanax before your term comes to an end.
It's more common than you know. Be careful out there! :)
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You say "promotion" but you really mean side grade. The only real promotions are clerk > backup > full time clerk > lead and the money that they make is so small of an increase for the amount of work you have to do it's not really a good idea to even do it.
Everything else you make the same amount as everyone else no matter how hard you work.. there are no merit raises.
I had a conversation about this just today. It's not as bad in other depts but up front it's something else... once upon a time in ATL division you had premium pay for certain jobs up front but that's no longer the case. You get nothing different as a cashier than you'd get as bookkeeper or AA.
" And of course you don't see people bragging about me. I post under the "anonymous" tag"...................Well that went over your head lol!
Well say what ya mean then. I ain't gonna waste time trying to decipher riddles or double-meanings here.
You're going to end up burning yourself out. I've seen it happen far too often around here for me to not, at least, tell you that much. You're going to end up offended by some little thing and go off the handle or be begging a doctor for Xanax before your term comes to an end.
It's more common than you know. Be careful out there! :)
I'm not too worried about burning myself out. There's enough variety going on that that's not a risk. Likewise with getting offended or upset. It's just not my style to bother with such things. Working with the people I work with, knowing my managers how I do, I just don't forsee that being an issue. And should it ever reach a point where it can become an issue, I have plenty of options available to handle it without putting my job or well-being in jeopardy.
Excuse me for being crass, but I think this anon is having some side fun with the managers...if you know what I mean.
After 7 months, I was like "not worth it". It's not that people are lazy, it's just that after getting overworked and burned out (which is exactly what happened to me), they start to think that nothing's gonna change whether or not you bust your butt, and just slack off.
-- Edited by thestruggleisreal on Saturday 20th of June 2015 03:02:22 PM
Excuse me for being crass, but I think this anon is having some side fun with the managers...if you know what I mean.
After 7 months, I was like "not worth it". It's not that people are lazy, it's just that after getting overworked and burned out (which is exactly what happened to me), they start to think that nothing's gonna change whether or not you bust your butt, and just slack off.
-- Edited by thestruggleisreal on Saturday 20th of June 2015 03:02:22 PM
Pretty much... If you ever work for a supervisor that never acknowledges you or your work, you are getting paid to waste time and energy. Find a department manager whose face isn't on a dart board and you likely have a better chance of surviving. Being *noticed* in any position means a lot. And every once in a while it's a good justification for not selling out to Target to make an extra $0.50 an hour.
