They're hiring people for deli and bakery in my store for $11 an hour part time. Most of the part timers who have been around for years in the deli are only making $10.50. Seems unfair to them.
If your local 1059 people who has already been in the job making less than 11 a hour will be bumped to 11. New hires only make more if they have experience pay. We need to look at the new contract before we cause chaos.
Yea, I was told any one making less than a particular amount then they will be bumped up to 11. Also that they are still "ironing" things out in the contract. Before they start getting copies out to people. Sounds a little backwards to me to get the info out AFTER the vote. But yea, from the little I've heard deli is going up to 11 bucks regardless. And even being full-time I'm just up to 11 bucks as well, as I guess whatever notation they had about a part-timer becoming full time for whatever reason or another during a particular time frame, no longer seems to apply I guess. But honestly the only truly ****ty part of the new changes in my opinion is that, people that don't even work as hard are now going to be making the same as those breaking their backs trying to get stuff done. That is the real kicker.
How are you making $11 an hour when we in Local 1996 only are making $10?
Honestly not 100% sure how they figured it out to be 11, as I didn't have the opportunity to get out and vote on the changes. But when I talked to my union person about it. She asked if I was full-time and when I was hired on, as well as what I was making. And via her little bracket thingie on the papers she had, she showed I'd be at 11, since I made just $8.75. Beyond that, I haven't much of a clue as how they decided on the 11 buck thing. I know 4hourrush had mentioned that 1059 might be taking a page from the Cincy/Dayton area changes. So could be a possibility. I just wish they would get some actual paper work or an email out to us, so EVERYONE can read the who, what, where, when, and why's of it all. As I've heard that even the folks at topped out pay will just get a 40 cent raise. But eventually folks hired after them will be making more than they do when they top out. So I dunno really.
You have to consider too, someone who started in 1987 and progressing from that is of course going to have started less than a new hire today. It sucks on the surface but makes perfect sense in reality.
The only problem with that is that the person on question hasn't been hired yet though. They're making announcements on the intercom that deli and bakery is hiring for $11 an hour which is how people found out in the first place.
You have to consider too, someone who started in 1987 and progressing from that is of course going to have started less than a new hire today. It sucks on the surface but makes perfect sense in reality.
Yes, logically it does make sense. Just I guess on a more personal level it still sucks. As you can really tell who works the hardest, goes above and beyond of the old timers at my store. And just in general held the store down through various call offs, schedule changes, bad weather etc. And it just seems like none of that loyalty is being taken into much account. Most especially in the bakery as we've had like 8+ new hires leave or have to be fired so fast, before they even gotten through 5 weeks of being on the job. And the old timers are still picking up the slack even though we don't have enough bodies on deck to really do that. So yea, just seems a bit uneven in the gains department for them. But does make me see why so many are wondering what their options are if they retire early and not wait til whatever age, to get full benefits.
Making the starting pay higher for new hires is GREAT! Everybody needs to be paid decent wages.
But, there should always be difference in the pay rate between new hires and people that already work there.
So when they raise the starting pay, they should also raise the pay to everybody else by the same amount.
I could be wrong, but it seems like a way to top people out faster too. Cause isn't the top pay for deli/bakery like typically 13 something or other, anyway?
Why should there be a difference in pay, if you're doing the same job?
Same job = Same pay
In theory yes same job = same pay. But not the same work ethic and commitment to/for the job. Or in short $11 bucks for someone that is doing their work and is on top of what they got hired to do. And $11 bucks for someone that is goofing off, calling off or not showing up as they should, no where near being as observant as they could be in regards to seeing what needs to be done or assisting customers. Does that seem balanced?
Why should there be a difference in pay, if you're doing the same job?
Same job = Same pay
In theory yes same job = same pay. But not the same work ethic and commitment to/for the job. Or in short $11 bucks for someone that is doing their work and is on top of what they got hired to do. And $11 bucks for someone that is goofing off, calling off or not showing up as they should, no where near being as observant as they could be in regards to seeing what needs to be done or assisting customers. Does that seem balanced?
I don't know why you guys are talking about work ethic and **** when the original poster said the new person hadn't even been hired yet.
Why should there be a difference in pay, if you're doing the same job?
Same job = Same pay
In theory yes same job = same pay. But not the same work ethic and commitment to/for the job. Or in short $11 bucks for someone that is doing their work and is on top of what they got hired to do. And $11 bucks for someone that is goofing off, calling off or not showing up as they should, no where near being as observant as they could be in regards to seeing what needs to be done or assisting customers. Does that seem balanced?
I don't know why you guys are talking about work ethic and **** when the original poster said the new person hadn't even been hired yet.
I'm talking about work ethic etc. Because at my store we are experiencing the same thing. The 11 bucks is for not only those not hired yet but also for those hired after a particular date. Which in my case I was hired in Aug. 2016 and also fit into the 11 bucks an hour category, as well as new hires that have just came on in the last several months. And unfortunately there are quite a few that can't tell their ass from their elbows half the time, while folks like myself have to pick up their slack. That's what I find unbalanced.
