Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
Guy was fired from Walmart came back later and shot the store manager and asst store manager dead. Thats what you get for abusing power. Kroger managers learn a lesson
Reality is guys no matter how we feel about Kroger at the corporate level and/or store management level and regardless of political/racial feelings, many of us spend several hours a day, multiple days of the week, at the stores we work at and we need to realize that what happened at Walmart and has happened at other venues and businesses across the country COULD happen at one of the stores we work at. It's something that we have to take seriously. It might sound over-dramatic or silly, but you all really should make sure you have at least one escape route planned in the event of an active shooter entering the building. Most likely, you will NOT want to go anywhere near the main entrances/exits, so you guys need to know the quickest/safest routes to the emergency exits and have at least two in mind if one takes you in the path of the shooter.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
This was on the news when I got to work this morning. And while what happened there was bad enough, the really crazy part is how the media will keep picking this apart.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Whoa, man. That is bad. I feel for you.
Maybe I made it sound bad for me. Nothing bad has happened in my area and I don't know of any Churches where the members carry guns to Church but some Churches the members might I don't know. My store has never been robbed. About all we have is people walking out with a cart full of beer and meat evey once in a while. But I am not going to say it want happen because I know it could.
What? Geez, man, no. None of that ****. I'm not racist, or that strong against religion, or anything like that. No, no, I'm talking people in general. There are too many humans in this world, most are stupid, and it's all causing problems like this. The herd of humanity in general needs thinning.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Whoa, man. That is bad. I feel for you.
Do you, really? As many 'guns and god' bumper stickers as I see, I could... well, just **** the Catholic/Christian church, they're a big part of the problem.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Whoa, man. That is bad. I feel for you.
Maybe I made it sound bad for me. Nothing bad has happened in my area and I don't know of any Churches where the members carry guns to Church but some Churches the members might I don't know. My store has never been robbed. About all we have is people walking out with a cart full of beer and meat evey once in a while. But I am not going to say it want happen because I know it could.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Whoa, man. That is bad. I feel for you.
Do you, really? As many 'guns and god' bumper stickers as I see, I could... well, just **** the Catholic/Christian church, they're a big part of the problem.
I see those on cars, too. But places like the church and such should be places of peace instead of being in fear.
Even at Kroger stores that DO have security, it's typically an off-duty police officer (and not in the store at all times). Kroger can't protect us, but I do STRONGLY recommend all employees familiarize themselves with Emergency Exit locations, make sure you have your phone on you and charged at all times (WITHOUT earbuds in, which I know normally only night stockers tend to use, but I've also seen Courtesy Clerks out on the parking lot and ClickList Selectors early in the morning use) and be both alert and mindful, ESPECIALLY on the front end because that's where it's most likely to start if it does happen.
This is the new reality in America and if your Kroger store is like mine and located in a busy shopping center/plaza/district, it's potentially a higher risk target.
If anyone has tips/ideas to share that they think might be helpful in an active shooter situation then please feel free to share to help fellow employees be more prepared (at least as prepared as can be) should any of us ever have to face something like this.
I live in a town about 17 thousand people. But my store serves several counties. And the shopping center is busy it seems the shopping center is getting more stores opening. We have 4 restaurants in the shopping center one is stand alone not really apart but shares the same address. So yes my store and shopping center is busy. And as far as shootings as a Christian I say we are living in the last days. All this is the sign of the times I know Christians have always said that but it has gotten worse and may get even worse before the end. It is sad when people at a Church have to stand at the front door with a handgun on there hip. I have no problem with guns. People kill people guns don't kill people. I never thought I would see the day you have to take your gun to Church and see the day the door has to be locked while service is going on. Just very sad.
-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 4th of August 2019 06:59:22 PM
Whoa, man. That is bad. I feel for you.
Do you, really? As many 'guns and god' bumper stickers as I see, I could... well, just **** the Catholic/Christian church, they're a big part of the problem.
I see those on cars, too. But places like the church and such should be places of peace instead of being in fear.
Yes it should be a place of peace. But when there have been so many Church shootings people have to protect their family and friends.
We already had to watch a video about mass shootings and what to do. Im very lucky that where Im working there is an exit right by me. If something happens, Im gone. Out that door and running for my life.
I hope everyone here will stay safe, we are living in a dangerous world.
Yup, it's a sad day indeed when you look at both Walmart and Ohio too. We haven't had it happen by us thankfully, but a few customers that are regulars do open and conceal carry in store (one of whom works contract security and holds an armed security license as their uniform they usually come to shop in probable after their shift says "armed security" on it plain as day with the gun in a retention holster.) Same for cops, we have cops stopping b from both local PD and nearby jurisdictions when they come on or off the clock for a meal or a break quick. I am grateful for them, but I always have a plan of escape or action ready if I am anywhere in or out of the store, especially on the lot after we had the PD conducting a sudden traffic stop turned armed arrest in front of the store right outside our main exit / front end and lobby doors.
We on staff and management are very observant usually and customers know that we do not mess around with any perceived threats or real ones reported or observed, management included. We are in a strip area with a few other retailers around us, so we are always on our toes. A few cars and panhandlers yes, but any vehicles that seem to be patrolling the lot or moving slow or have people wandering in and out constantly with out buying anything or seem to be loitering in a group, we observe and report to MOD and get them up front for their determination immediately.
I honestly hate being on my toes at work, but if i come across something that doesn't feel right, report it to management or LP and have them address or assist. We had a PI being stalked once and I got grabbed by her as she wanted me to escort her to her car, I asked if she had reported this, she told me no, so i immediately went to service desk and paged for MOD to the front end and security to their office. All of on duty management responded with LP while they took statements and LP interviewed the customer after being shown good footage and pics of the guy that the PI had taken, LP ID'ed him as being still in store from tape recently while all management and a few other employees started a grid search of the store to find the individual, who actually got outside before management could approach him while i waited up front with another employee and LP covering front end and keeping her calm and collected. Once management was done, me and two other employees escorted her to her vehicle and loaded her quickly and got her going while management maintained a watch on the lot from the exit.
It's usually really nice when PD does random patrols of the strip as they will go up and down lanes and back n forth in front to keep a presence both on foot and by vehicle, while LP will do the same but will drive in their company vehicle and go up and down the lot as well. We as baggers outside usually keep a good presence as well as a few panhandlers know if we are moving towards them, they tend to run away well before they approach the store lot or customers will approach us and alert us of something happening.
-- Edited by UC151 on Tuesday 6th of August 2019 01:31:13 AM
I wouldn't put much faith in emergency exits. I'm not aware of it being done before, but it would be so easy to just epoxy them shut or park a car against them or something.
Depending on your department, there might also be coolers to hide in. The roof hatch might be cool if the combination is still the store number, although it might be risky if there's a fire.
I wouldn't put much faith in emergency exits. I'm not aware of it being done before, but it would be so easy to just epoxy them shut or park a car against them or something.
Depending on your department, there might also be coolers to hide in. The roof hatch might be cool if the combination is still the store number, although it might be risky if there's a fire.
The fire exit at our compactor there is usually trash in cart's until they decide to call code green. Also out the door where the compactor is is usually got carts there so exiting would be hard. But if something happens I guess I will be checking my skills in making my way out.
On October 24, 2018, Maurice E. Stallard, aged 69, and Vickie Lee Jones, aged 67, both African Americans, were killed while shopping at a Kroger store in Jeffersontown, Kentucky
That being said, it was pretty funny watching suits trying to tell us to throw stuff at the shooter, boxes, knives, rocks, etc to protect customers. This was the uninoric policy at a store 5minutes away from corporate. To engage a shooter with cardboard boxes.
No one bothered to listen to it and said they'd just run and no one could stop them. But at the time I was genuinely awestruck I sat in a meeting with corporate and was told this.
Kroger's has no plans, korgers doesn't care. Krogers does have a statement ready to go when they need to clean the blood up and hiring replacements.
These shootings may be the push to finally get me to quit. I have another job now but was hanging onto Kroger for job security (if something goes wrong with the other job, I still have a job to go back to where I don't have to work evenings or weekends and I have four vacation weeks.) But yesterday when I went into work I felt really nervous. You just never know what's going to happen. My other job is less busy and has armed security guards.
I don't know, I don't like how nervous I felt last time I went into work. There's an emergency exit near my department but it says it takes 15 seconds to open, which just seems weird to me. Why make an emergency exit take 15 seconds to open?
I don't know, I don't like how nervous I felt last time I went into work. There's an emergency exit near my department but it says it takes 15 seconds to open, which just seems weird to me. Why make an emergency exit take 15 seconds to open?
It's suppose to deter shoplifters from using the emergency exit doors. However, the doors are suppose to unlock immediately if the fire alarm or the sprinkler system is going off. Unfortunately, nothing can be done if you're being chased by someone with a gun. Perhaps that should be looked into.
Im sure Kroger thinks we should take a bullet and die protecting a customer
Seriously i mean it, if something happens I am running for my life, most others would be doing the same and would trample you to get away. Protect yourself
Kroger does not really want the publicity, making people think about their shopping options. They have huge piles of false documentation for civil and insurance purposes. It takes a lot of resources and effort to keep people feeling helpless without missing the warning signs of just a little too much anger and frustration. A well publicized incident where the suspect survives could lead to a hearing of grievances and real trouble for the company. Scaring and hurting people is the wrong way to go.
