vaccine mandates

Date: Sep 10, 2021

vaccine mandates

Date: Sep 11, 2021

The courts will decide.

Date: Sep 11, 2021

There's going to be a lot of people who lose their jobs because of this. It's not a mandate, it's blackmail. If it holds up, I think Biden's days will be numbered, and I don't mean as President.

EUID_Unknown · Guru

Its funny how people don't already understand they are "mandated" to do things already. Most laws are mandates that were controversial in the begging, only because a group didn't feel it was "just". Why do we drive on the right side of the road? Why do we wear seat belts? What is smoking no longer allowed on airplanes or in bars/restaurants? Why do we wear clothing?

Frankly, you do you, but live with the consequences. I say we do a 2-3month study, our society/businesses/hospital/work is split in with into 2 groups, People WITH Vaccine or wear a mask 24/7, People WITHOUT and do nothing to prevent spread, each group will have no interaction with each other. I have a feeling, while the NON-Vaccine/No Mast people might be able to show off a big smile, the hospitals will be overrun and they will indicate it was a conspiracy from the other groups actions.

Date: Sep 12, 2021

I dont care I already got the vaccine recently. Probably wouldnt have done it but my wifes sisters ex husband dont give a **** about died from complications with Covid. He wasnt vaxxed. Just not gonna chance it any more.

Date: Sep 12, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
Its funny how people don't already understand they are "mandated" to do things already. Most laws are mandates that were controversial in the begging, only because a group didn't feel it was "just". Why do we drive on the right side of the road? Why do we wear seat belts? What is smoking no longer allowed on airplanes or in bars/restaurants? Why do we wear clothing?

Frankly, you do you, but live with the consequences. I say we do a 2-3month study, our society/businesses/hospital/work is split in with into 2 groups, People WITH Vaccine or wear a mask 24/7, People WITHOUT and do nothing to prevent spread, each group will have no interaction with each other. I have a feeling, while the NON-Vaccine/No Mast people might be able to show off a big smile, the hospitals will be overrun and they will indicate it was a conspiracy from the other groups actions.

Go away commie.

EUID_Unknown · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
Its funny how people don't already understand they are "mandated" to do things already. Most laws are mandates that were controversial in the begging, only because a group didn't feel it was "just". Why do we drive on the right side of the road? Why do we wear seat belts? What is smoking no longer allowed on airplanes or in bars/restaurants? Why do we wear clothing?

Frankly, you do you, but live with the consequences. I say we do a 2-3month study, our society/businesses/hospital/work is split in with into 2 groups, People WITH Vaccine or wear a mask 24/7, People WITHOUT and do nothing to prevent spread, each group will have no interaction with each other. I have a feeling, while the NON-Vaccine/No Mast people might be able to show off a big smile, the hospitals will be overrun and they will indicate it was a conspiracy from the other groups actions.
Go away commie.
"Give

"Give me life liberty and the pursuit of happiness".....basically in any time before now this wouldn't have been an issue in this county. With knowledge comes freedom, other then your "freedom", what is the justification for not getting the shot or wearing the mask? Fake News? The conspiracy that Vac. will track you? (I guess you don't have a Cell Phone or use a Debit/Credit Card, or use the Internet) I think most people would be fine if someone is not 100% sure of the Vaccine, waiting but wearing a mask.

I guess the question I have, if COVID wasn't/Isn't an issue, would you have traveled to Indian or China earlier this year/last year?

Date: Sep 12, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
EUID_Unknown wrote:
Its funny how people don't already understand they are "mandated" to do things already. Most laws are mandates that were controversial in the begging, only because a group didn't feel it was "just". Why do we drive on the right side of the road? Why do we wear seat belts? What is smoking no longer allowed on airplanes or in bars/restaurants? Why do we wear clothing?

Frankly, you do you, but live with the consequences. I say we do a 2-3month study, our society/businesses/hospital/work is split in with into 2 groups, People WITH Vaccine or wear a mask 24/7, People WITHOUT and do nothing to prevent spread, each group will have no interaction with each other. I have a feeling, while the NON-Vaccine/No Mast people might be able to show off a big smile, the hospitals will be overrun and they will indicate it was a conspiracy from the other groups actions.
Go away commie.
"Give
"Give me life liberty and the pursuit of happiness".....basically in any time before now this wouldn't have been an issue in this county. With knowledge comes freedom, other then your "freedom", what is the justification for not getting the shot or wearing the mask? Fake News? The conspiracy that Vac. will track you? (I guess you don't have a Cell Phone or use a Debit/Credit Card, or use the Internet) I think most people would be fine if someone is not 100% sure of the Vaccine, waiting but wearing a mask.
I guess the question I have, if COVID wasn't/Isn't an issue, would you have traveled to Indian or China earlier this year/last year?

Doesnt matter. If people dont want to get the shot then they dont have too. Maybe cause youre weak and unhealthily doesnt mean others are. You dont even know what youre actually being injected with its not even about your lol tracking bs. One of those vaccines cause bells palsy and no one cares to get or deal with that ****. And get off the whole mask thing it doesnt stop you from catching Covid.

Date: Sep 14, 2021

Weekly testing is an alternative. As someone who is not going to get the vax, I have two concerns:

1) Will the tests remain free, or will they start charging for them to push people to get the free vax?

2) Will we get paid time off if we test positive, since we won't have the option to keep working even if we're asymptomatic?

Yeah, I've started pulling a good chunk of cash out of the bank every month just in case.

Date: Sep 14, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Weekly testing is an alternative. As someone who is not going to get the vax, I have two concerns:

1) Will the tests remain free, or will they start charging for them to push people to get the free vax?

2) Will we get paid time off if we test positive, since we won't have the option to keep working even if we're asymptomatic?

Yeah, I've started pulling a good chunk of cash out of the bank every month just in case.

no and no. Doesnt hurt to save money in case the corrupt courts actually rules this constitutional.

DavidMalone · Newbie

i think urs really good idea

Date: Sep 18, 2021

Date: Sep 19, 2021

EUID_Unknown wrote:
Its funny how people don't already understand they are "mandated" to do things already. Most laws are mandates that were controversial in the begging, only because a group didn't feel it was "just". Why do we drive on the right side of the road? Why do we wear seat belts? What is smoking no longer allowed on airplanes or in bars/restaurants? Why do we wear clothing?

Frankly, you do you, but live with the consequences. I say we do a 2-3month study, our society/businesses/hospital/work is split in with into 2 groups, People WITH Vaccine or wear a mask 24/7, People WITHOUT and do nothing to prevent spread, each group will have no interaction with each other. I have a feeling, while the NON-Vaccine/No Mast people might be able to show off a big smile, the hospitals will be overrun and they will indicate it was a conspiracy from the other groups actions.

There's a big difference between a legislative body of elected Senators and Representatives passing a law and a single person deciding what everyone should do. Everyone seems to be forgetting or ignoring the role of the three branches of government. The legislative branch makes the law. The executive branch executes the law. The judicial branch interprets the law.

Date: Sep 24, 2021

I love all this "they're taking away my freedoms" BS...I'm so glad, too, that I actually STUDY the history of pandemics in this country and the world...You all need to know about the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts lawsuit of 1905 if you don't...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

By the way, Jacobson didn't win the lawsuit...

Date: Sep 24, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
I love all this "they're taking away my freedoms" BS...I'm so glad, too, that I actually STUDY the history of pandemics in this country and the world...You all need to know about the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts lawsuit of 1905 if you don't...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
By the way, Jacobson didn't win the lawsuit...

Except these shots dont actually work.

Date: Sep 24, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I love all this "they're taking away my freedoms" BS...I'm so glad, too, that I actually STUDY the history of pandemics in this country and the world...You all need to know about the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts lawsuit of 1905 if you don't...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
By the way, Jacobson didn't win the lawsuit...

Except these shots dont actually work.

Pharmaceutical companies don't waste money on research and development and a worldwide rollout on products that DON'T work...Their bottom line and reputation are at stake here...I mean, what would be the purpose? They're not really making any money off this, either, because they can't charge through the roof like they can on normal prescription drugs, so why would they bother? What's in it for THEM??? People need to think about this stuff LOGICALLY and use their heads!

Kroger-Employee · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I love all this "they're taking away my freedoms" BS...I'm so glad, too, that I actually STUDY the history of pandemics in this country and the world...You all need to know about the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts lawsuit of 1905 if you don't...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
By the way, Jacobson didn't win the lawsuit...

Except these shots dont actually work.
Pharmaceutical companies don't waste money on research and development and a worldwide rollout on products that DON'T work...Their bottom line and reputation are at stake here...I mean, what would be the purpose? They're not really making any money off this, either, because they can't charge through the roof like they can on normal prescription drugs, so why would they bother? What's in it for THEM??? People need to think about this stuff LOGICALLY and use their heads!

I highlighted your comment in red that shows you are very naive. I don't want to sound like a smarty here, but seriously, I have to assume you have not read up on any of the many drugs that have been used for awhile (even after long, detailed preliminary research), then taken off the market for various reasons over the last 100 years?????

The pharmaceutical industry may be doing their best to find "good" and "helpful" drugs to treat various diseases and afflictions, BUT there are still going to be some small percentage of them that eventually are found to be NOT GOOD for the general public (the cost/benefit ratio doesn't turn out to be acceptable) and are banned or taken off the market in later years. Please, educate yourself and don't accept all the Big Pharma propaganda blindly and without any healthy scepticism!!!!!!

Date: Sep 24, 2021

Kroger-Employee wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I love all this "they're taking away my freedoms" BS...I'm so glad, too, that I actually STUDY the history of pandemics in this country and the world...You all need to know about the Jacobson vs. Massachusetts lawsuit of 1905 if you don't...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts
By the way, Jacobson didn't win the lawsuit...

Except these shots dont actually work.
Pharmaceutical companies don't waste money on research and development and a worldwide rollout on products that DON'T work...Their bottom line and reputation are at stake here...I mean, what would be the purpose? They're not really making any money off this, either, because they can't charge through the roof like they can on normal prescription drugs, so why would they bother? What's in it for THEM??? People need to think about this stuff LOGICALLY and use their heads!
I highlighted your comment in red that shows you are very naive. I don't want to sound like a smarty here, but seriously, I have to assume you have not read up on any of the many drugs that have been used for awhile (even after long, detailed preliminary research), then taken off the market for various reasons over the last 100 years?????
The pharmaceutical industry may be doing their best to find "good" and "helpful" drugs to treat various diseases and afflictions, BUT there are still going to be some small percentage of them that eventually are found to be NOT GOOD for the general public (the cost/benefit ratio doesn't turn out to be acceptable) and are banned or taken off the market in later years. Please, educate yourself and don't accept all the Big Pharma propaganda blindly and without any healthy scepticism!!!!!!

Thats why the booster shots were approved. Oh wait!

Date: Sep 27, 2021

Date: Sep 28, 2021

Well, what has Kroger done for everything else covid?

Kroger is merely going to copycat whatever Walmart does, but worse.

Hopefully, they will do it so poorly it'll end up in the courts.

Not like the union is going to help us.

Date: Sep 28, 2021

I wonder how many Kroger employees have gotten the vaccine.

Date: Sep 29, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
I wonder how many Kroger employees have gotten the vaccine.

Well, I'm one of them and I certainly have! I'm ABSOLUTELY getting the booster, too, if and when available...If you get the COVID like I did last November, you'll be changing your tune in a hurry about these vaccines!

By the way, when drug companies make a drug that DOESN'T work, they have a process for dealing with that...It's called a DRUG RECALL! Just like they do with every other tainted or poisonous product...AFAIK, there hasn't been a recall yet on these vaccines...Remember all that contaminated pet food coming from China? They pulled that stuff off the shelves faster than a dog with a bone and a place to bury it! Remember romaine lettuce??? How many times did we have to deal with THAT debacle??? THE FDA didn't want anyone to get sick with that stuff, so why would they want people getting sick with a vaccine? If there is something in the shots that will make you sick, I'm pretty sure AFTER ALL THIS TIME, there would have been AT LEAST ONE recall on them...

Sooo, when are they going to pull all these supposedly "harmful" vaccines off the market??? Don't worry...I'll wait for your answer...

Date: Sep 29, 2021

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I wonder how many Kroger employees have gotten the vaccine.
Well, I'm one of them and I certainly have! I'm ABSOLUTELY getting the booster, too, if and when available...If you get the COVID like I did last November, you'll be changing your tune in a hurry about these vaccines!
By the way, when drug companies make a drug that DOESN'T work, they have a process for dealing with that...It's called a DRUG RECALL! Just like they do with every other tainted or poisonous product...AFAIK, there hasn't been a recall yet on these vaccines...Remember all that contaminated pet food coming from China? They pulled that stuff off the shelves faster than a dog with a bone and a place to bury it! Remember romaine lettuce??? How many times did we have to deal with THAT debacle??? THE FDA didn't want anyone to get sick with that stuff, so why would they want people getting sick with a vaccine? If there is something in the shots that will make you sick, I'm pretty sure AFTER ALL THIS TIME, there would have been AT LEAST ONE recall on them...
Sooo, when are they going to pull all these supposedly "harmful" vaccines off the market??? Don't worry...I'll wait for your answer...

The covid vaccines have caused more deaths than 15 years worth of all other vaccines combined. Biden said only 1 out of 160,000 people end up in the hospital due to complications from the vaccine. Those aren't good odds when you consider that for other vaccines the ratio is .1? out of 1,000,000. That's basically 1 to 2 people out of 10 million that end up hospitalized due to a reaction to a vaccine. The covid vaccine isn't even a true vaccine. A vaccine is suppose to give immunity and therefore keep one from spreading the disease. The covid vaccines don't keep you from getting the virus and they don't keep you from spreading it. All it does is maybe lessen your symptoms. So what it's really doing is making people who are vaccinated asymptomatic and they're spreading it around to other people. Don't look on the CDC website to get the definition of a vaccine because they changed it to match what the so-called covid vaccines are doing. The original definition of a vaccine was a preparation administered into the body either by injection or orally that produces immunity against a disease. The new definition says a vaccine triggers an immune response. It does not say it produces immunity. There's a big difference between the two. You can have a fever as an immune response to a vaccine but that doesn't mean you have immunity.

Date: Sep 29, 2021

Only for employees not customers. It'd be total hell if it applied to customers "show your vaccine card or exemption card." Exemptions for medical allowed (with dr note) but not religious - go figure. I know five or six employees who will never get it.

Date: Sep 29, 2021

1984 is here.

Date: Sep 29, 2021

The CDC has turned into a political organization.

Kroger-Employee · Guru

Anonymous wrote:
The CDC has turned into a political organization.

Absolutely TRUE. The CDC is supposed to be non-partisan and only (or primarily) about the health and well-being of the general public in the US. INSTEAD it is being taken over by political hacks who are constantly 'carrying the water' for the Leftist agenda / Democratic Party. Anything to make Biden and his party look better and the Conservative movement to look worse.

Anyone who watches a bunch of videos on Youtube can plainly see the CDC has swayed back and forth, and up and down, and in and out, over the last 18 months, sending contradictory messages, which ends up confusing everyone about what the "right" thing to do should be. It's no wonder there is so much distrust of the Centers for Disease Control (not to mention the World Health Organization - WHO)

Date: Sep 30, 2021

Kroger-Employee wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The CDC has turned into a political organization.
Absolutely TRUE. The CDC is supposed to be non-partisan and only (or primarily) about the health and well-being of the general public in the US. INSTEAD it is being taken over by political hacks who are constantly 'carrying the water' for the Leftist agenda / Democratic Party. Anything to make Biden and his party look better and the Conservative movement to look worse.
Anyone who watches a bunch of videos on Youtube can plainly see the CDC has swayed back and forth, and up and down, and in and out, over the last 18 months, sending contradictory messages, which ends up confusing everyone about what the "right" thing to do should be. It's no wonder there is so much distrust of the Centers for Disease Control (not to mention the World Health Organization - WHO)

Better be careful or the Left might label you a conspiracy theorist. That's their go to response. Anytime you question what they tell you, or you find evidence that contradicts what they tell you or you catch them in a flat out lie, they call you a conspiracy theorist. From what I've seen and heard, not only should some of those people be thrown out of office or fired from their positions, but some of them should be in jail.