Same clown that came in last week came in tonight and said "I am 60 years old can't you tell I am old enough?" Then he said "this is b******t." Told him I am only following Kroger policy and state law. What I really wanted to tell his is gp down the road to Publix where they NEVER ask for ID!!
It really depends on the store. Generally, if someone is OBVIOUSLY over 40 then you aren't required to ask for an ID and just ask for their birthday to make the computer happy. I use to do that all the time with the older guys who came in. Once I was just in flow, not fully paying attn to who I was serving, and asked a 70 y/o man for his ID. We all got a good laugh as I checked it.
Even today it's really hard to get younger people to not be worried about ID because it's drilled into their head to ID, ID, ID but if you get an older cashier or manager they are more lenient to that sort of thing because personal judgement is key. Age is really hard to pin down.
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
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but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
Is Kroger's policy on restricted item sales (tobacco/alcohol) the same in all states?
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
Is Kroger's policy on restricted item sales (tobacco/alcohol) the same in all states?
All I can say is in my experience, I have never been asked to show I.D. when purchasing items from the Wine and Spirits shop. I've also watched what happens when someone buys beer at u-scan. If the person is definitely well over 21, they don't have to show I.D.
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
As someone who currently lives in KY and is well over 21 - you're a tard.
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Would you like fries with th... I mean, your milk in a bag?
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
As someone who currently lives in KY and is well over 21 - you're a tard.
Under KRS 244.085, its illegal to sell or serve alcohol to anyone under 21. But and this is key Kentucky law does not require ID checks for every alcohol sale.
The law simply states:
If a customer appears under 21, the clerk must verify age.
If the customer is clearly over 21, ID is not legally required.
Sellers are protected if they check ID and reasonably rely on it in good faith, even if it later turns out to be fake.
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
As someone who currently lives in KY and is well over 21 - you're a tard.
Under KRS 244.085, its illegal to sell or serve alcohol to anyone under 21. But and this is key Kentucky law does not require ID checks for every alcohol sale.
The law simply states:
If a customer appears under 21, the clerk must verify age.
If the customer is clearly over 21, ID is not legally required.
Sellers are protected if they check ID and reasonably rely on it in good faith, even if it later turns out to be fake.
So in cases like this, Kroger policy supercedes state law (?)
So in cases like this, Kroger policy supercedes state law (?)
I think it depends on the particular Kroger and the particular clerk. Our store has signs that say you must ask for I.D. if the purchaser looks under the age of 27. Don't ask me how they cam up with that number. It really just comes down to common sense. The part about everyone in a party must show I.D. is really stupid. People under 21 aren't even allowed in the Wine and Spirits shop but shoppers can still bring their kids along with them to the main grocery store and purchase beer. Does that mean that a clerk can refuse to sell beer to a customer just because their kids are with them? Some people here would seem to think that.
but to answer your question: The law states that you're required to ask for ID on any sale of alcohol or tobacco everywhere in the US.
That is incorrect. There's at least four states that do not require clerks to ask for I.D. if there's no doubt that the purchaser is 21: Indiana, Kentucky, Ohio, and Texas. There's probably more, but those are the ones I know of.
As someone who currently lives in KY and is well over 21 - you're a tard.
Under KRS 244.085, its illegal to sell or serve alcohol to anyone under 21. But and this is key Kentucky law does not require ID checks for every alcohol sale.
The law simply states:
If a customer appears under 21, the clerk must verify age.
If the customer is clearly over 21, ID is not legally required.
Sellers are protected if they check ID and reasonably rely on it in good faith, even if it later turns out to be fake.
That's not the practicality of the situation, however. Every time I go in to buy a restricted product I'm asked for ID regardless of the situation or what the law states. It's happening based on store policy and if "the customer appears over 40". I was attempting to express that it is not what's happening on the ground and in stores, regardless of the actual law. The kids are having it drilled into them to ALWAYS check for ID despite the physical appearance of the customer.
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Would you like fries with th... I mean, your milk in a bag?
Same clown that came in last week came in tonight and said "I am 60 years old can't you tell I am old enough?" Then he said "this is b******t." Told him I am only following Kroger policy and state law. What I really wanted to tell his is gp down the road to Publix where they NEVER ask for ID!!
Have you never heard of google? Only clown here is you.
Original poster here-there was a store in the Local 1996 (Atlanta GA) area that got busted last week for selling to a minor. Not sure if it was smokes or alcohol. Apparently local police sent an underage "tester" into the store and the cashier sold the kid the restricted item. I heard about this from another cashier but she didn't know what store was involved.
It's a u.s. government law it is required if you are residing in any of the states. The consequences are high because of extreme issues that have occurred over the years. Frankly if you're dumb enough to sell to a minor and get fired for it that's basically on you. The same goes for anything age restricted such as movies (yes movies), some propane's, medications and high theft items or high dollar value items....
The only reason why kroger became hard affes on the id scanning rule is because in my area 6 cashiers failed in a three month time frame in stings and that is why you have to scan now. They almost lost their liquor license and had to pay $$ in fees because of the issue. If you run sco never let customer manually enter the date, why? even if they're of age you're at fault, you can not fabricate a date either and you know they are. Oh, but it's right in front of me can't I do it - legally no you can't. you a$$ is on the line.
Same clown that came in last week came in tonight and said "I am 60 years old can't you tell I am old enough?" Then he said "this is b******t." Told him I am only following Kroger policy and state law. What I really wanted to tell his is gp down the road to Publix where they NEVER ask for ID!!
All Kroger store follow state regulations--that means I.D.
That's publix problem. You are able to report them. People are getting better with makeup and trying to make them look out, I.D. is still required.
An customer whom lost his I.D. for 20 years shopping at the store claimed he had no money but paid all his groceries.
Original poster here: We are seeing customers coming in with digital licenses on their phone. We have been told by management not to accept it as we need to see a physical license for restricted sale items
Same rules as if you were to sell to someone drunk. If id does not meet standards of a valid id you legally have to reject sale. You posted this on reddit too. You have to be a hard a$$ about the id rule. Your store is slow at getting on board with this rule. Once customers adjust to it, this makes sense and helps you as the employee protect your job. The only fail is at sco when you allow customers to enter their own bod and that I have seen some people get fired over. If a customer gives you attitude get the manager, lead or pic on duty to your register and they can handle the jack aff of a customer. Your job is more important than a customer being a dick to you or giving you attitude over a simple policy. No the system doesn't store personal information.
Correct, a photo of a photo of your id on your phone does not count as a real id. I had a lady do this to me once and she handed me a photo copy of an id and bi-tched about how it was from the dmv and I personally have gotten dmv temp lisences before and they do not give you a copy of your lisence and say here you are
Correct, a photo of a photo of your id on your phone does not count as a real id. I had a lady do this to me once and she handed me a photo copy of an id and bi-tched about how it was from the dmv and I personally have gotten dmv temp lisences before and they do not give you a copy of your lisence and say here you are
Some do. youre just in some backwater hill billy dinosaur tech state. Catch up
