Harassment by Department Head

Date: May 16, 2018

Harassment by Department Head

Anonymouse1 · Guru

Are you hitting the 55 minimum? If not, work faster! My dead grandmother can throw stock faster.

Have you posted before? There was a similar complaint a few months ago.

55 cases per hour is just for throwing stock. It does not include clean up, breaking down pallets, conditioning, etc. It only counts opening a case and putting stock on the shelf.

Per our contract, you can't be fired for being too slow unless you are still on probation. Your contract might be different.

Call your district union rep and ask him what to do. Don't ask the in store shop steward.

Anonymouse1 · Guru

Are you this person?

http://krogerforum.activeboard.com/t64426519/az-night-crew-cases-per-hour/

I am a night manager.

I wish I could tell a few of them to quit but I can't.

I do have a short fuse at times because I am constantly having to reteach the same crap everyday

to the same people.

Date: May 16, 2018

No I have not posted this before I'm hitting the 55 minimum and he knows it. I hit 60 or more. It depends on what aisle I'm doing. The 60 or more includes stocking, conditioning item on each side, and breaking down trash to throw in cart to empty in baler later when it's full. Pallets get cleaned up at the end of the night unless we run out of room. I know he can't fire or convince them to fire us. It's just an example of some of the stuff he says. If I call the district rep, they'll probably call the shop steward and ask him to take care of it or tell me to call him.

4hourrush · Guru

I don't really know what to say on this.

In some cases, i have seen some department heads who really are jerks to their people and demean them and belittle them.

In other cases, i have seen some people who basically get butthurt because their department head is telling them to do their job. If someone's like "my dept. head didn't ask me and demanded it", no it means they told you what needed done.

So if it's the first, then i agree, go to the union. If it's the second, then their just doing their job. However there is definitely a way to do this without yelling or cursing at someone.

Date: May 16, 2018

If it were number two, I wouldn't be posting this on here. It's the cursing, harassment, and anger problems im talking about. He throws items at one of my coworkers, yells, and harasses him. It had him in tears one night. They're related some how and won't say anything about it because he knows it will also start drama outside store. I just don't want to say something and them try to move me as the resolution because like I said he does it to others and I like my job. I just don't like the trouble he starts.

4hourrush · Guru

I'm surprised they let him be a supervisor over a relative in the first place. Normally people would worry about favoritism in those situations, but it sounds like this is the exact opposite. Yeah, it sounds like he's a problem then for sure.

GreyKnitHat · Senior Member

Anonymouse1 wrote:
Are you this person?
http://krogerforum.activeboard.com/t64426519/az-night-crew-cases-per-hour/
I am a night manager.
I wish I could tell a few of them to quit but I can't.
I do have a short fuse at times because I am constantly having to reteach the same crap everyday
to the same people.

Same here. I have a short fuse once I start getting in trouble for things that my crew wont do. I generally try not to care, but Im forced to have the crew that I have, and have been forced since they were all hired. And now that we have too many applications, suddenly its MY fault that theres no one they can fire because they didnt extend their probations and now things aren't getting done like they could be? Crazy. I definitely havent been saying that for 2 years anyway.

That being said, I dont throw things at people and make them cry.

They wont, shouldnt I should say, move you as a resolution. What hes doing is wrong. Very wrong. Tell your union rep about the family relationship, the abuse, and about the lack of professionalism. You have the right to report it anonymously. There are cameras when in doubt. If hes too smart about it and stays away from cameras, record it yourself. They wont fire him immediately, probably, so be prepared for management giving him multiple chances.

Anonymouse1 · Guru

GreyKnitHat wrote:
Anonymouse1 wrote:
Are you this person?
http://krogerforum.activeboard.com/t64426519/az-night-crew-cases-per-hour/
I am a night manager.
I wish I could tell a few of them to quit but I can't.
I do have a short fuse at times because I am constantly having to reteach the same crap everyday
to the same people.

Same here. I have a short fuse once I start getting in trouble for things that my crew wont do. I generally try not to care, but Im forced to have the crew that I have, and have been forced since they were all hired. And now that we have too many applications, suddenly its MY fault that theres no one they can fire because they didnt extend their probations and now things aren't getting done like they could be? Crazy. I definitely havent been saying that for 2 years anyway.
That being said, I dont throw things at people and make them cry.
They wont, shouldnt I should say, move you as a resolution. What hes doing is wrong. Very wrong. Tell your union rep about the family relationship, the abuse, and about the lack of professionalism. You have the right to report it anonymously. There are cameras when in doubt. If hes too smart about it and stays away from cameras, record it yourself. They wont fire him immediately, probably, so be prepared for management giving him multiple chances.

I don't throw stuff or use vulgar language.

If I try to be nice, these people will walk all over me. I just talk real stern with a straight face...

Date: May 16, 2018

They have given him multiple chances. I don't think he deserves any more. He was Head of different department, but he screwed up there and they moved him. He gripes about how he hates the job and is going to quit, but still hasn't done it. One union says you can't be disciplined for not hitting the minimum 55 cases per hour because it's not in their contract. It's also not in ours or job description as far as I know so I'm beginning to wonder if his idea of making carts of 55 cases and timing everyone each hour can be effective as he thinks

Date: May 17, 2018

Anonymous wrote:
They have given him multiple chances. I don't think he deserves any more. He was Head of different department, but he screwed up there and they moved him. He gripes about how he hates the job and is going to quit, but still hasn't done it. One union says you can't be disciplined for not hitting the minimum 55 cases per hour because it's not in their contract. It's also not in ours or job description as far as I know so I'm beginning to wonder if his idea of making carts of 55 cases and timing everyone each hour can be effective as he thinks

Well, Kroger is forcing night leads to do this despite it not working. We and co management has all of this paperwork to fill out every day and once a week that reports whats done and isnt done, and how fast the individual night members are. They cannot punish you for it but they can raise some hell. (Not sure if theyre making your night leader do it, but it sounds like someone is pressuring him to.) Its frustrating as all ****, I get it. It wastes a lot of time just so Kroger can watch us all. But thats not the issue here. Krogers gonna do what they want and we all generally have to play along and deal. Its not his anger thats the issue, its how hes dealing with it, and taking it out on you guys. You are all reaching 55 cph anyway, so just keep doing that and keeping you aisle clean and conditioning like youre supposed to. Do what he says and report the harassment and do your honest work and go home. Dont think twice about it. Sounds like youre working just fine and he needs to cool his jets or get out.

Date: May 18, 2018

If you're doing things right to company protocol file Kroger ethics complaint. I have coworker discriminating against me with retaliation for every little flippen detail and I'm ending it. I'm trying at the store level first and if it doesn't work union then corporate. This is discrimination by retaliation and I suggest to end it sooner than later. Don't let Kroger get away with this stuff. We are human begins and are allowed to be treated with reasonable accommodations. This is a work place violation. Talk to your store head first. If they don't do anything then take it to the next level and file an ethics complaint. I don't even bother with the union any more because they sure didn't as hell help me at my last location.

Date: May 18, 2018

I probably will if he keeps it up. He didn't do any of it yesterday. I'm sure he will tonight. If my supervisor doesn't take care of it. If my supervisor doesn't take care of it, I'll have someone else do it for him. I just don't want him to get in trouble for someone else's behavior. He works 3 different departments so he has enough on his plate as is. I'm just sick of it. The guy keep saying he's going to quit, but I'll believe it when it happens. I think the main reason he hasn't is because if he does this elsewhere, there won't be someone to save his a**

Date: May 22, 2018

This is a work place violation. End it sooner than later. Don't take this crap. File a work ethics complaint with Kroger. You'll have a locked door conversation with union, management and accused individual. I took it for several years at my last location and ended it with a pending lawsuit I later decided not to continue. My hidden disability gave me much hardship due to lack of understanding.

Date: May 23, 2018

My advice is to make a record of the assaults and harassments. I've had managers do this to me too. One I had to blow up in his face ( he's a Back-up who DOES NOTHING at all, but gets paid for the position which he shouldn't have at all ), the middle finger and told him to **** off. Sometimes you have to stand up to bullies, even if it cost you a job or position. People will test you to see if you're a chump or alpha. All I know is if you DO NOT stand up, you will get pushed around daily until you just get fed up and quit.