by a narrow 5-4 vote obamacare wins the day. What does this mean for us? higher heath care? yeah for sure. What happens now? well I think November rolls around and the voters rally to the new republican battle cry for REPEAL HEALTH CARE LAW VOTE FOR US !!!
What do you think? good thing, bad thing, don't give a flying F***?
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Prices go up. it's not going to effect us as much as they want you to believe. Our premium may go up because of it but that will be unavoidable. We can either get government healthcare in the form of a 2% tax on our income or we can get what our employer offers. Why are options a bad thing?
Everyone that works gets healthcare and everyone that doesn't gets medicare. If you're already paying for healthcare then why would it bother you?
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Good points being made here, but this thing is by no means over and done with. It will be appealed by every state in opposition to it. And when/if the Repubs take the office again it will be SWIFTLY chewed up in filibuster.
My chief objection to this is it is that much more federal government control; we've got waaaay too much of that already from both parties.
I believe the stagnation that the republican party wants to bring is unacceptable. they have blocked anything that could be considered progress in this country. I, for one, am getting sick of it. Just to clarify, i consider myself a republican.
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it will be raising the taxes on your income (oh wait obama promised not to raise taxes - yea right). This is the largest tax ever put on the American people. Also it will raise the cost of your food. Who sells food? Kroger does.
Sooo... you will be netting less in wages and paying more for everything. Good luck retiring at 68 years old!
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I am no longer part of the oppressed, evil workforce of Kroger! Can you say "Hallelujah"
Republican or Democrat, you have to have a laugh at what John Boehner said on TV this morning. The United States has the "best healthcare system in the world". LOLLLLL.
Hating one and voting against the other is as silly as hiring ONE lawyer to defend both members in a divorce. I've known a coupla peeps in Congress; believe me, the Reps and Dems eat, drink and make merry at the same troughs and driving ranges. We seriously need real Third Party reform.
But it won't happen for at least another 10--20 years. Because why? Because both parties have this country wrapped up tighter than an Egyptian shroud in their shared power structure which really benefits only them and their one percentile friends. Anything resembling Liberterianism would have them cowering back in fright from personal accountability---and actually CHANGING much needed things gone wrong for too long in this country------Like a can of SUPER TOXIC BUG SPRAY.
-- Edited by nocturnia on Monday 2nd of July 2012 09:46:48 AM
Noctunia you are correct! They are the same, for example they are like a bird it has a left wing and a right wing but it is still the same stinking bird.
Next, let's seriously tax the ultra rich. I know this flies in the face of my own firm values on free markets, but c'mon: Bill Gates paid less than ONE PERCENT in taxes last year? WHAT THE F--K.
World history has proven, time and again, what happens when all of a sudden some people have money while EVERYONE ELSE has none.
when I go to the polls to vote I dont go to vote for who I think will do a good job. I go to vote for who i believe is the lesser of two evils. all politicians are the same promise you the world to get elected and as soon as they are elected will sell you down the river to the highest bidder
I've been hearing that a civil war could breakout over Obamacare, and they say if you can leave the country before it starts do it ASAP! That's what I feel like doing moving to another country that is not as bad as America is right now.
But where would that be?
Next, let's seriously tax the ultra rich. I know this flies in the face of my own firm values on free markets, but c'mon: Bill Gates paid less than ONE PERCENT in taxes last year? WHAT THE F--K.
World history has proven, time and again, what happens when all of a sudden some people have money while EVERYONE ELSE has none.
Good point, but Bill Gates is probably the worst possible example you could have used for this. This man has teams of people whose job it is to donate his own funds. He's donated over 30 billion dollars to charities. Also, Obama is trying to pursue increasing the tax on the 1% and 0.1%, but the republicans are pretty much stalling him at every turn with the misconception that if you save the 0.1% money, they will give you more jobs. But obviously when you have networks like fox spouting nonsensical sensationalist misinformation, the uneducated are going to eat it up, because it's what appeals to that type of person. There definitely does need to be reform, just how to do it is something I don't think anyone can agree on right now.