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we're now signing things left and right on the front end at my store.  they hand us every thing from coupon policy to id checking policy to self-checkout procedures for those to whom it applies.  what's the deal?  is this generated by a paperwork happy FEM, something from the zone or a corporate thing?



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Probably someone from the zone. There seem to be a lot more policies and procedures which simply must be followed, and double checked, and submitted, and signed. It appears that as the company looks to consolidating and eliminating positions at the district and division levels, many people in corporate have to come up with ways to make their job look important, so they come up with BS initiatives like that.



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i never sign anything. If you happen ti sign anything that would go against your contract, then you gave away your collective barganing rights to them . If I do sign anything, I state that I agnolage the item but do not recognize or honor anything that is conficts with my union contract.

This came up many years ago when they wanted meat people to sign the dating police that stated they could terminate you for violating it. If you signed it then that gave them the right to bypass the contract on write-ups and disapline and go right to termination.



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NEVER

SIGN

ANYTHING!

It WILL get used against you latter



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The only thing we sign is safety papers like put back cold things ect..

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Signing training forms indicates you have been properly trained by Kroger for that subject. It effectively absolves them of any responsibility and places it firmly on the employee. Make them train you properly prior to signing anything. They have budget line items for this, make them use it.



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SIGN NOTHING.

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I've been told every time somebody gets hurts in the district they pass out these forms. I'm getting rather tired of them trying to get me to sign this "Department Safety Standards" that can basically terminate you for any reason. You should never sign this, but they will want it in your file. When they send out these sheets for Safety 360 I write on there that by signing this safety topic paper it doesn't release company from its obligations towards an injury".

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The only thing you should sign for is your paycheck. Nothing else. Politely refuse and also politely refuse to give a reason why unless you have a union rep present. They use this to hamstring you later (I know, I've done it).

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We don't even have to sign for those anymore, either.

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We randomly had to sign something the other day.... It was saying we undertand about till shortages..

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Safety sheets are every quarter I think, and if someone in our department gets injured, we have another one within the week. Major policy changes, like a recent one regarding coupons on phones, require everyone in the front end to sign an acknowledgement/understanding form that deals only with that policy. I've never seen one that went against what I was hired or trained to do, or that went against local or standing corporate policy at my store.

Sometimes we get a ton in a short period, but that's also when the ice starts to fall and our baggers start doing stupid things in the parking lot.

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lglahn wrote:

Major policy changes, like a recent one regarding coupons on phones, require everyone in the front end to sign an acknowledgement/understanding form that deals only with that policy.


Signing that policy about the coupons on the phones is most likely a store-by-store or district-by-district policy. We had no mentiona at all about signing acknowledging the policy.



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the words "policy" "require" and "sign" do not belong together in the same sentence. don't sign it. it's as simple as that.

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I remember one person in our department used to sign things using the names of cartoon characters.



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The biggest issue with not signing something is that unscrupulous managers could place, for example, SIRs in your file, then say they discussed them with you but you never sign anything. It becomes your word against theirs, which could be a problem when previous managers leave and new ones come in.

If a paper says you've been trained, or are provided with certain equipment, or basically anything, I'd advise someone to sign "I do not agree," "this conflicts with my contract," "I was not provided this training/equipment," "signing under protest/duress," etc, and sign it anyway.



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yes. write in big capital letters on the line "REFUSED TO SIGN", then PRINT your name underneath the line

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