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I've been unavailable for these two days for about two or three years now, all of a sudden this week they scheduled me on those days. I don't know what to do about it.  The manager has been pushing me to open up my availability on those days (not saturday or sunday by the way) and now it seems like he's going ahead and doing what he wants even without me changing my availability. I don't know what to do.



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Stand up to your manager. If you have a reason for it, stick up for yourself. The manager is not, in fact, God.

If that fails.

Union. Talk to your store steward. Failing that, call the union.

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Wow!! I'm going through the same thing. I was unavailable on the weekends... Well now I am available whether I like it or not. You could try talking to your manager and explain him/her why you are not available those days and maybe they'll change it back. My co workers said that it was just sheer luck I had my weekends off and my luck ran out. I want my luck to return and even told management that. They said that I could find another job if I chose to. Yea the guy that does scheduling is a d***. But every manager/schedule writer is different. Yours might be cool

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Are you truly unavailable? In other words, are you in school? If not, you're not really unavailable. The managers might need you for the needs of the business.



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If someone says they're unavailable, they shouldn't be scheduled, regardless of the reasons for the unavailability.  The store has no right to force you to work on days you say you're unavailable. At least that's how it works at my store, I don't know about your store or topic creator's store.



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I wish it were that way at my store... We have a guy whose been there a long time. ALWAYS had thurs and fri off. Now...he's been made available regardless of what his situation is. Our schedule writer's opinion about it?? 'You are now available....or you can find a new job.' Worst asm ever. So glad when he leaves in a week

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My advice? Restrict your hour availability on those days so much that it's not worth their time to schedule you. That's what I did when they started scheduling me on days I was unavailable and it worked like a charm.



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If someone says they're unavailable, they shouldn't be scheduled, regardless of the reasons for the unavailability.  The store has no right to force you to work on days you say you're unavailable. At least that's how it works at my store, I don't know about your store or topic creator's store.


This is just plain incorrect. Every contract I read has mentioned something about the "needs of the business."



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If someone says they're unavailable, they shouldn't be scheduled, regardless of the reasons for the unavailability.  The store has no right to force you to work on days you say you're unavailable. At least that's how it works at my store, I don't know about your store or topic creator's store.


This is just plain incorrect. Every contract I read has mentioned something about the "needs of the business."


I would have to disagree with you as this is definitely how it works around here as well and there is nothing about it in the contract at all.



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That's exactly the reason I had my weekends made unavailable (again...for now at least). I work my butt off 5 days a week at sometimes 10+ hours. So I deserve my weekends. They can do without me those 2 days. We have coverage. I use that time to go fishing, hangout with my friends, and maybe a party here and there

-- Edited by mega-kitteh on Sunday 23rd of June 2013 12:17:18 PM

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I've never read anything about it in the contract either. In any case, the ~*~*needs of the business~*~* can kiss my ass. I put my own needs first. If I'm unavailable, then I'm unavailable, and if they try to schedule me the union's going to be hearing about it.



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you can change your 'permanent' availability twice a year. it can be approved or denied. once it's your approved availability, they should not be scheduling you during those hours.  that's against scheduling policy and best practices.  

we've been in situations where we've called people who are 'unavailable' to see if they can squeeze in a shift but that's different.  we've also had a schedule writer schedule people outside their availability and we've been forced to find a replacement that shift. 

i've noticed some weird things going on in our scheduling.  seniority gets ignored.  the evening shift rotation that's supposed to happen for full timers isn't happening. 



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Well even though Kroger wants mostly part-time they still have the right to have you there at least one day on the weekend. When I was dept. hd. I had a kid that insisted he couldn't work weekends even though he was only going to junior college Mon-Fri. He was so brazen about it he would come in the store on Sat. evening or Sunday afternoon to buy hangover cures/or more booze.... so with our busiest days being Sat and Sunday the laid back  store manager finally refused his request to have every weekend off and he had to start working Sundays. So Party On Garth... but ur conniving butt should be there and helping out with the workload to be fair with your co-workers. You want no weekends then u'd better go be a teacher's aide or post office/govt. job. Retail grocery stores are staffed 24/7 and need to be.. so man' up it won't hurt u or ur precious social, partyin life.



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Well even though Kroger wants mostly part-time they still have the right to have you there at least one day on the weekend. When I was dept. hd. I had a kid that insisted he couldn't work weekends even though he was only going to junior college Mon-Fri. He was so brazen about it he would come in the store on Sat. evening or Sunday afternoon to buy hangover cures/or more booze.... so with our busiest days being Sat and Sunday the laid back  store manager finally refused his request to have every weekend off and he had to start working Sundays. So Party On Garth... but ur conniving butt should be there and helping out with the workload to be fair with your co-workers. You want no weekends then u'd better go be a teacher's aide or post office/govt. job. Retail grocery stores are staffed 24/7 and need to be.. so man' up it won't hurt u or ur precious social, partyin life.


 This is a perfect example of "needs of the business." I don't get why people aren't understanding this simple concept.



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The weekend thing is irrelevant. The OP even said that he is not after the weekends.

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Stranger wrote:

The weekend thing is irrelevant. The OP even said that he is not after the weekends.





It is relevant. Whether or not the OP is after weekends or not he said he was unavailable on certain days, and they scheduled him. I am aware he is not after weekends. This is about being scheduled in certain days that you have marked as unavoable for whatever reason, and them scheduling you on said days irregardless of your availability.

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I don't think it's fair to have every weekend off just so you can go fishing or whatever else. Maybe your coworkers would like to have a weekend off every once in a while too?

I guess that's seniority for you but i don't have to agree with it. Being unavailable should be for things like school. I've had to work on days that weren't exactly the best day of the week but I dealt with it.

I could see requesting a weekend off once in a while but EVERY weekend? Are you a dept. head?

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The thing about limiting your availability is that if, say, you say you can't work 2 out of 7 days, you should expect a commensurate number of hours. You may be the top seniority (for part time) but you should expect no more than about 5/7ths the hours of anybody below you.

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I'm the topic creator. I worked it out with the union, they said I don't have to come in those two days I was scheduled, and that they shouldn't be scheduling me for days I'm not available. So hopefully that ends that. 

The thing about limiting your availability is that if, say, you say you can't work 2 out of 7 days, you should expect a commensurate number of hours. You may be the top seniority (for part time) but you should expect no more than about 5/7ths the hours of anybody below you. 

I don't really mind that. In fact, for me that's a bonus. I don't want that many hours.



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Sigh... I wish I had that luxury lol... Well that works out for you I suppose. Your meeting with the union ended the way I had expected. Your availability is, at least generally, unavoidable by the company.

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i can work on thanks giving day 7 am to 12 pm.



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felora1637 wrote:

i can work on thanks giving day 7 am to 12 pm.


While I'm happy for you, that means nothing to us. You should let your dept head know that so they can schedule you accordingly.



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