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When am I in the Union?
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How long does it take to be in the union? And, will I be notified when I am? Will anything change once I am part of the union?



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Either 30 days, 60 days, or 90 days (depends on your contract).

The difference is, when you're part of the union (sometimes even before), you pay union dues. That's it.

Welcome to the union! Where you pay people to enforce a contract that's only intention is to give benefits for those people who have been there forever! God bless the union!



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After you pay for The initiation fee.

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you make a good point about the union and people who've been there forever. they're the only ones who benefit under new contracts but they got in under a better contract anyway.  they really don't expect or what people to stay that long and put up with as much as there is to put up with.



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Anonymous wrote:

you make a good point about the union and people who've been there forever. they're the only ones who benefit under new contracts but they got in under a better contract anyway.  they really don't expect or what people to stay that long and put up with as much as there is to put up with.


 To add insult to injury though, whenever I ask a question to someone regarding pay or benefits (since I'm under the newest contract's most recent employees), I'm told I have to earn pay and benefits. These people who are under the older contracts are basically telling the newer employees to go screw themselves.



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The contract doesn't make sense.  We should earn based on performance or responsibility.  

In local 1996 I see cashiers who just don't care, have write ups, call outs, chronic lates, short drawers, prior suspensions, etc. make more money than dependable floor supervisors just because the cashier has been "with the company" longer.  

Who gets yelled at for that cashier not doing her job?  Shift supervisors.  This is a disincentive.  Good performance is not rewarded or even noticed.  Yelling, ranting a plan is needed when we've asked for your help because of system failures or improper scheduling left us shorthanded is wrong.  It's not how to solve things.  Mr Manager, that schedule YOU approved WAS "the plan."

Being told "you need to anticipate problems" is not a solution when the problem presented is self-checkout going down, registers going down, western union going down, lottery going down, ebt going down, loyalty going down... 



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Amos

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Not all locals have an initiation fee. A steward should be able to let you know when you are in the union and start paying dues, and when your probation is up.

It's always a balancing act when negotiating contracts, rewarding long term employees versus giving incentives to newer people.

Unfortunately, as with most unions, seniority is everything. It's a shame for people that work hard, especially when the perception is that higher seniority people do less. I've seen stores where 20 years olds are upset about 50 year olds that don't perform to the same standards. That 50 year old can't work like they did 30 years ago, in some cases.



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