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2 times this past week i worked 4:00-9:00, which is 5 hours, on my schedule it says it was 4.5 hours.

yesterday i worked 1:30-7:45, it says i worked 5.75 hours

What is the deal? WIll this affect my pay?



-- Edited by whattheAR on Friday 1st of November 2013 08:46:48 PM

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eschedule is not your time clock so, no, it will not effect your pay. take your breaks like you normally would. Who knows why it wants to give you lunches on 5-6 hours shifts. I don't think you even get a lunch unless you are on schedule for 6 1/2 hours... in which case i'd take 2 breaks unless instructed otherwise.

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OP, are you really, really, realllllllly fat? I'm serious here. Maybe your schedule writer thinks you can't go a few hours without eating. Maybe they don't want you to eat them! D=



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whattheAR wrote:

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2 times this past week i worked 4:00-9:00, which is 5 hours, on my schedule it says it was 4.5 hours.

yesterday i worked 1:30-7:45, it says i worked 5.75 hours

What is the deal? WIll this affect my pay?



-- Edited by whattheAR on Friday 1st of November 2013 08:46:48 PM


 Yes, it will effect your pay.  You need to ask your schedule writer whether you are supposed to take a lunch or not.  Or, wait and play dumb when someone asks you why you got an extra hour this week....

4:00-9:00 is 5 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 4.5 hours.

1:30-7:45 is 6.25 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 5.75 hours.

Generally, the rule at our store is:  If you are scheduled for a 6+ hour shift, you need to take a lunch. Period.  I do not understand why they are making you take a lunch for a 4.5 hour shift.  Since Eschedule started at our store, I have only worked 8 hour shifts so I do not know if we take a lunch or not for a 4.5 hour shift.



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whattheAR wrote:

Examples: 

2 times this past week i worked 4:00-9:00, which is 5 hours, on my schedule it says it was 4.5 hours.

yesterday i worked 1:30-7:45, it says i worked 5.75 hours

What is the deal? WIll this affect my pay?



-- Edited by whattheAR on Friday 1st of November 2013 08:46:48 PM


 Yes, it will effect your pay.  You need to ask your schedule writer whether you are supposed to take a lunch or not.  Or, wait and play dumb when someone asks you why you got an extra hour this week....

4:00-9:00 is 5 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 4.5 hours.

1:30-7:45 is 6.25 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 5.75 hours.

Generally, the rule at our store is:  If you are scheduled for a 6+ hour shift, you need to take a lunch. Period.  I do not understand why they are making you take a lunch for a 4.5 hour shift.  Since Eschedule started at our store, I have only worked 8 hour shifts so I do not know if we take a lunch or not for a 4.5 hour shift.


 Here in 400 it's:

5 - 1 break

6.5 - 1 break and 1 lunch

8- 2 breaks and 1 lunch



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Addressing all of you, i am a minor so my 'breaks' are either ONE 15 min or ONE 15 min and ONE lunch.(i think for 6+ hours)

Those shifts for 4:00-9:00 i had a 15 min break, even though eschedule says i had a 30 min break

SO is this a problem?

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whattheAR wrote:

Examples: 

2 times this past week i worked 4:00-9:00, which is 5 hours, on my schedule it says it was 4.5 hours.

yesterday i worked 1:30-7:45, it says i worked 5.75 hours

What is the deal? WIll this affect my pay?



-- Edited by whattheAR on Friday 1st of November 2013 08:46:48 PM


 Yes, it will effect your pay.  You need to ask your schedule writer whether you are supposed to take a lunch or not.  Or, wait and play dumb when someone asks you why you got an extra hour this week....

4:00-9:00 is 5 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 4.5 hours.

1:30-7:45 is 6.25 hours but minus 30 minutes for a lunch is 5.75 hours.

Generally, the rule at our store is:  If you are scheduled for a 6+ hour shift, you need to take a lunch. Period.  I do not understand why they are making you take a lunch for a 4.5 hour shift.  Since Eschedule started at our store, I have only worked 8 hour shifts so I do not know if we take a lunch or not for a 4.5 hour shift.


 Here in 400 it's:

5 - 1 break

6.5 - 1 break and 1 lunch

8- 2 breaks and 1 lunch


I was actually wrong, i work 1:30 to 7:45 tomorrow, i didnt really look at that correctly. 

SO for 1:30-7:45 i will get one break, and if they put me for 15 mins longer i would have gotten a lunch too?



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whattheAR wrote:
I was actually wrong, i work 1:30 to 7:45 tomorrow, i didnt really look at that correctly. 

SO for 1:30-7:45 i will get one break, and if they put me for 15 mins longer i would have gotten a lunch too?


 I don't know what division you're in but in the Mid South if your shift is more than six hours (yours is 6 hour and 15 minutes) you get two breaks.  I don't know anybody who takes a lunch when they're scheduled less than 8 1/2 hours



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Anonymous wrote:
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I was actually wrong, i work 1:30 to 7:45 tomorrow, i didnt really look at that correctly. 

SO for 1:30-7:45 i will get one break, and if they put me for 15 mins longer i would have gotten a lunch too?


 I don't know what division you're in but in the Mid South if your shift is more than six hours (yours is 6 hour and 15 minutes) you get two breaks.  I don't know anybody who takes a lunch when they're scheduled less than 8 1/2 hours


 They said people under 18 get lunch and break for working more than 6 or 6 1/2 hours



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 They said people under 18 get lunch and break for working more than 6 or 6 1/2 hours

 That still doesn't explain why they have you 4.5 when you're working a 5.



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Well that is why i came on here. 

Is this a problem(as in, is it affecting my pay) and what can i do to stop it?



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Well that is why i came on here. 

Is this a problem(as in, is it affecting my pay) and what can i do to stop it?


 if by "affecting my pay" you mean wanting you to take a lunch instead of a break then yes. Should you talk to your manager/union rep about what you should do? Also, probably, yes.



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I don't know what division you're in but in the Mid South if your shift is more than six hours (yours is 6 hour and 15 minutes) you get two breaks.

This is incorrect, although sometimes we do "cheat" and take 2 breaks instead of the break and lunch. I'm assuming you were just told what you said, but whoever told you this was either incorrect or lying. The midsouth contract says you get a break and lunch for a 6 hour shift, but you can opt to forfeit the lunch, but makes no mention of substituting in a break instead. If needed, I can quote the contract itself.

Things get less "grey area" for minors, however.

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They said people under 18 get lunch and break for working more than 6 or 6 1/2 hours

It's 6 hours or more and they don't have the option to forfeit it like adults.

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That still doesn't explain why they have you 4.5 when you're working a 5.

It's where someone (either eschedule or the schedule writer) inserted a lunch, perhaps because the shift was originally longer and was shortened. We could do this in sked. I could theoretically schedule someone 8.5 hours or more and sked would only show them working .5 hrs or less.

whattheAR wrote:

Well that is why i came on here. 

Is this a problem(as in, is it affecting my pay) and what can i do to stop it?


No, it has nothing at all to do with your pay. You are paid based upon what you work, not what you are scheduled. No action is required.



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BagBoy wrote:
whattheAR wrote:

Well that is why i came on here. 

Is this a problem(as in, is it affecting my pay) and what can i do to stop it?


 if by "affecting my pay" you mean wanting you to take a lunch instead of a break then yes. Should you talk to your manager/union rep about what you should do? Also, probably, yes.


Nah, not necessarily. whattheAR is a minor, so unless their contract states lunches must be taken for shifts shorter than 6 hours, they don't have to take one til they hit 6 hrs, at which point it's illegal to skip the lunch. Pretty much straight forward.



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It shouldn't affect you unless your person doing payroll puts you in for taking a lunch ..... I am not sure how it works were you are at but in local 700 its Under 4 hrs. no break. 4 hrs. to 6.75 hrs 1 break. 7 hrs to 8 hrs 2 breaks but work 7.5 hours you can request a lunch... Work 8.5 hrs. its 2 breaks a lunch ..... work 9 hrs its 2 breaks and a 1 hour long lunch which 9 hrs shifts don't happen very often....

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This is incorrect, although sometimes we do "cheat" and take 2 breaks instead of the break and lunch. I'm assuming you were just told what you said, but whoever told you this was either incorrect or lying. The midsouth contract says you get a break and lunch for a 6 hour shift, but you can opt to forfeit the lunch, but makes no mention of substituting in a break instead. If needed, I can quote the contract itself.

 


 

But if you're scheduled say 1 PM to 7 PM and take a lunch you're really not working a 6 hour shift.  You're working a 5 hour shift.

 



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whattheAR wrote:

Examples: 

2 times this past week i worked 4:00-9:00, which is 5 hours, on my schedule it says it was 4.5 hours.

yesterday i worked 1:30-7:45, it says i worked 5.75 hours

What is the deal? WIll this affect my pay?



-- Edited by whattheAR on Friday 1st of November 2013 08:46:48 PM


Your pay depends on what you actually work, not what the schedule says. That being said, I've had a few checks come up short, so I recommend that everyone track their actual hours. I normally write down what time it is every time I hit the clock, that way I know if the check is off because I went over on breaks, forgot I clocked in late or clocked out early for some reason, or if there's actually a mistake somewhere, and I have some back-up if I have to ask for it to be corrected. I mean, I'm not gonna get all freaked if it's off by a few minutes here or there, but 3 or 4 hours? THAT I want fixed. They don't get that much work for free.



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This is incorrect, although sometimes we do "cheat" and take 2 breaks instead of the break and lunch. I'm assuming you were just told what you said, but whoever told you this was either incorrect or lying. The midsouth contract says you get a break and lunch for a 6 hour shift, but you can opt to forfeit the lunch, but makes no mention of substituting in a break instead. If needed, I can quote the contract itself.

But if you're scheduled say 1 PM to 7 PM and take a lunch you're really not working a 6 hour shift.  You're working a 5 hour shift.


No, it's still a 6 hour shift. You just only get paid what you work: 5 hours, or 5.5 hours in stores with 30 min lunches.

"time worked", "shift length", and "paid time" are not the same thing. For example, in stores with a 1 hr lunch on a 6a-3p shift:

  • shift length is 9 hours
  • paid time is 8 hours
  • time worked is 7.5 hours

The contract refers to "shifts of 6 hours or less."



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techelite wrote:
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This is incorrect, although sometimes we do "cheat" and take 2 breaks instead of the break and lunch. I'm assuming you were just told what you said, but whoever told you this was either incorrect or lying. The midsouth contract says you get a break and lunch for a 6 hour shift, but you can opt to forfeit the lunch, but makes no mention of substituting in a break instead. If needed, I can quote the contract itself.

But if you're scheduled say 1 PM to 7 PM and take a lunch you're really not working a 6 hour shift.  You're working a 5 hour shift.


No, it's still a 6 hour shift. You just only get paid what you work: 5 hours, or 5.5 hours in stores with 30 min lunches.

"time worked", "shift length", and "paid time" are not the same thing. For example, in stores with a 1 hr lunch on a 6a-3p shift:

  • shift length is 9 hours
  • paid time is 8 hours
  • time worked is 7.5 hours

The contract refers to "shifts of 6 hours or less."


 Sometimes, I wish I could have a 1hr lunch. Getting a break on the front end is completely horrible.



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Here in Michigan, it's:
4 hours=1 interruptable break
6 1/2 hours= 1 interruptable break + 1 uninterrupted lunch
7 1/2 hours= 2 interruptable breaks 1 uninterrupted lunch


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Here in Michigan, it's:
4 hours=1 interruptable break
6 1/2 hours= 1 interruptable break + 1 uninterrupted lunch
7 1/2 hours= 2 interruptable breaks 1 uninterrupted lunch


 it's not a break if it's interrupt able... can't you just, like, go out and sit in your car for 15 mins?



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BagBoy wrote:
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Here in Michigan, it's:
4 hours=1 interruptable break
6 1/2 hours= 1 interruptable break + 1 uninterrupted lunch
7 1/2 hours= 2 interruptable breaks 1 uninterrupted lunch


 it's not a break if it's interrupt able... can't you just, like, go out and sit in your car for 15 mins?


 Yeah, which is why it's realllllllly stupid. I got like, a half hour lecture before from my manager for ignoring the intercom when I was paged while on break before :/

The thing though with Michigan is that we don't have a law on the books concerning lunches and breaks, meaning our union doesn't have as much bargaining power as they should. We really do need a law giving workers guaranteed breaks.



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