For anyone that doesn't know, bumping someone is when you switch your shift with theirs, and my store this can be done with or without the other person's permission. At the service desk (where I work) the person with the most seniority (Person 1) bumped Person 2's shift. In turn Person 2 bumped Person 3's shift. But Person 2's shift is outside of Person 3's availability. When Person 3 tried to talk to management about this, they would not fix it and said they already approved the bumping. Person 3 wanted to keep his original hours to see his father, but I am the only person lower than him on seniority at the desk not scheduled that day. He asked me to switch with him, and I said I would if he would take my Saturday shift but he did not tell me what he decided. I am afraid he is going to try and bump me (thus taking away my already granted requested day off) and leave me still working next Saturday. I checked the handbook but could not find any information. The question I am asking to everyone here is can he just take my requested day off like that and switch an 8 hour shift with my day off? I'm worried because I really wanted to see my grandpa for the holidays but now I fear I might not be able to.
If you already have an approved request day off to see your grandpa, go and see him. I don't think your co worker can bump your approved requested day off. I NEVER let ANYONE with more senority bump my approved request day off.
I'm not a popular guy there for that reason.... But oh well. Family first.
To make a long story short, more than likely, yes. Seniority is mostly everything.
However, there's still the matter of hours, availability, and contract wording. Is person 3 restricted? Who in this scenario is full-time? Does your store do bumping by the week or by the day? My understanding is that a lot of the stores are doing it by the week now instead of by the day because there were to many complications with the contract concerning hours and scheduling within availability.
Schedules can typically be changed anytime before 12 pm Saturday. Remember, a requested day off is just that, a request. If your the last person on the totem pole for the service desk, I'd actually be surprised if you didn't get screwed often.
That's what I'm hoping for, because the day has already been approved by management. At my store it used to be that you could only bump shifts for those with equal hours to your own (ex. someone has an 8 hour shift from 3pm-11pm can only bump someone with an 8 hour shift). I haven't heard of it changing but maybe it is, since they aren't even taking availability into account anymore
How about people accept the shifts they're given and make themselves more available if they want more hours? I mean really all of this 'bumping' is nonsense. You're a grown fuc*ing adult. You shouldn't treat your co-workers as if they solely exist to benefit you.
How about people accept the shifts they're given and make themselves more available if they want more hours? I mean really all of this 'bumping' is nonsense. You're a grown fuc*ing adult. You shouldn't treat your co-workers as if they solely exist to benefit you.
But what if the day has already been approved? If the day is approved by management then I highly doubt bumping will work in this case
Needs of the business. Plus, the approval was made with the thought that someone else would be able to cover the shift.
If worse comes to worse OP, I suggest either to ask if a cashier do it in your place (I'm assuming you have at least one cashier who can fill in for the service desk) or be "sick" that day. You could always just work the shift, but, family's pretty important.
Yeah to be honest, family is far more important than a job at Kroger (which I do not need to live, it is just to make extra money while I am in college). If the worst happens, I will more than likely give my two weeks notice and call off that Thursday, "needs of the business" and what not be damned.
To make a long story short, more than likely, yes. Seniority is mostly everything.
However, there's still the matter of hours, availability, and contract wording. Is person 3 restricted? Who in this scenario is full-time? Does your store do bumping by the week or by the day? My understanding is that a lot of the stores are doing it by the week now instead of by the day because there were to many complications with the contract concerning hours and scheduling within availability.
Schedules can typically be changed anytime before 12 pm Saturday. Remember, a requested day off is just that, a request. If your the last person on the totem pole for the service desk, I'd actually be surprised if you didn't get screwed often.
Yeah, I thought the bumping needed to be done before 12pm Saturday too.
If you already have an approved request day off to see your grandpa, go and see him. I don't think your co worker can bump your approved requested day off. I NEVER let ANYONE with more senority bump my approved request day off.
I'm not a popular guy there for that reason.... But oh well. Family first.
agreed. bumping is stupid. the store should work with each employee the best they can based on the agreed availability of each need, that of the business & the individual employee. its no one else's business what someone else is doing.
Hello OP here. I just thought I'd give an update in case anyone looks over this for advice or information. I talked to management because I figured at least if what they said was not what I wanted to hear, it would be accurate. It turns out at my store an employee can only bump for the same or greater amount of hours (so my 0hrs for my requested day off cannot be switched with someone's 8hrs). Also, bumping can only be done for a shift earlier in the day. I thought this was interesting and I guess it goes to show that the rules may vary from store to store. In other words, my day off is safe and I will be seeing my family without having to call off. I didn't bring up bumping a shift to someone when the shift is outside of their availability because I did not want management to be disgruntled when they had already been helpful to me. That will have to be the other employee's battle.
Also, bumping can only be done for a shift earlier in the day.
I have a hard time believing this part. The only reason first shifts are defaulted is because they tend to be considered "preferred shifts." However, not everyone will consider an early shift to be "preferred."
OP again, I'm just saying what management told me. I guess it doesn't really matter if you find it hard to believe or don't believe it period, I was just updating my situation and letting people know that the rules may vary so they should ask management if they have questions instead of being left in the dark.
I almost had to bump a coworker of mine by using the seniority card, but I politely asked him if he would switch me sunday for monday because of an important event that I had put into eschedule for a PH, but for whatever reason was denied. Anyways, I have no problems with bumping, but believe the schedule should be fairly written. There has also been a few times where I came close to bumping a cutters shift based upon me getting in trouble at night-time. I'm the assistant market manager, yet I work 2 - 3 nights a week while our cutter who arrived there 8 months has all early shifts. When I started getting in trouble I threatened to bump his shifts make sure I don't get in trouble for future night-time closings and it worked. I'm normally not like this, but they we're coming down on me hard and was using it as part of a strategic to give them the message of "back off on me".
-- Edited by AnonymousCutter on Monday 23rd of December 2013 02:19:26 PM
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OP again, I'm just saying what management told me. I guess it doesn't really matter if you find it hard to believe or don't believe it period, I was just updating my situation and letting people know that the rules may vary so they should ask management if they have questions instead of being left in the dark.
I disagree with this. Management does not always have your best interests at heart. Just because they say something, does not make it so. So, it actually DOES matter. If you wanna say you're doing it just to let other people know, you're not giving them sound advice. The best advice is to learn what's written in the contact, and have a union representative help clarify what's written in the contract. Even if people do genuinely care, this does not mean they have their facts straight either. Everyone can make mistakes.
Anyhow, glad you're satisfied OP. Just don't trust management too much, or, it'll come back to bite you. Believe you me.
