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Is it true they can cut me down to part time if my availability isn't what they want, the reason why I'm asking because my managers are threatening to even though I've worked that schedule for three years and now the want to screw with it. I asked my manager about the issue he says if I can't work when ever ill be knocked down to parttime. Then he added don't go to the union cause others have tried. District O. Please I really need some opinions some facts something.



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That is how it is at our store in Michigan.

It is true.  If you are not available when Kroger needs you to be there, then you are basically part time.

You still get 2 days off a week but other than that, they can schedule you whatever hours they want during the 40 hour week.

Ask your shop steward to make sure nothing can be done.

Yes, the newer and newer contracts keep getting worse.

Do not piss off you manager.  It is not a wise battle to choose.



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You still get 2 days off a week but other than that, they can schedule you whatever hours they want during the 40 hour week.


 Clarification.  If you remain full time, you still get 2 days off a week.  If you get switched back to part time, they can schedule you 4 hours a day for 6 days a week.

My next guess will be part timers complaining about losing insurance benefits.  Not yet, but soon.



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So with e-schedule my manager stated ,  since I'm a full-time employee I gotta change my availability to open to close...so that the computer can schedule me at anytime ...if I don't change my e-schedule then ...



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You can try and put that you're unavailable on certain days if they approve it, but for the most people the union can't help because its doing it for the "needs of the business" which is complete and utter bull****. It should all fall through with seniority.

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I saw papers a while back ago by the time clock that said full timers HAVE to have open availability.

Honestly I can understand why, how is it far to everyone else if you ALWAYS have the same day off. Unless you have a really good reason, you should be flexible.

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4hourrush wrote:

I saw papers a while back ago by the time clock that said full timers HAVE to have open availability.

Honestly I can understand why, how is it fair to everyone else if you ALWAYS have the same day off. Unless you have a really good reason, you should be flexible.


fair? FAIR? Please. The rules are different for different people.  My store has lots of 40 hour people who have scheduled unavailabilities because of school or other things or specific days off.  

When I saw what eschedule was doing to me... and only me... I was told I could not ever be unavailable so I'm scheduled any random eight hours 24/7 364 days a year.  I'll open, close and be overnight all the same week. I completely lose track of what day it is.  It'll schedule me up to twelve days in a row.  It pisses me off.  Union just said "needs of the business" which I call BS. Causing burnout is NOT a need of the business.  That's how mistakes happen.



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Keep in mind, If someone with less senority has an earlier 8 hour shift on the same day you work, you can bump them for that shift.  Early shifts are supposed to be based on senority still at our store.

You need to ask your shop steward to know the exact rules for your store.



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Anonymous wrote:

You need to ask your shop steward to know the exact rules for your store.


 Exactly, because some contracts, like mine, require you to take the whole week, not just one day, which makes it much harder to roll shifts.



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According to the way it was explained to me if you as long as you have 40 hours you cannot bump an earlier shift. At my store we have way too many chiefs and not enough Indians. It is hard to go to work when you have to work with people who bitch and moan all the time. Kroger SUCKS. The UFCW seems to be in bed with Kroger because all they do for us is agree with Kroger and help create more problems and misery. Even if we tried to make the union work for us, it would not happen. It also does not help when you have people who held a position in dairy or filled another position act as if that gives them seniority over people who have way more seniority them, which is not true. E-sched  says according to them. Also just because you have worked at a store for x amount of time doesn't mean you can just bark out I want these hours to do this or that job and then 3 months later cry because it is unfair you have to work that shift all the time, and then want the shifts you worked before back. It also blows when you work with someone who works the back dock constantly run their mouth and call people names, belittle people and then say "OH THEY CANT DO ANYTHING TO ME"  " I'M MY OWN BOSS".  Just another day in the BIG K.



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Yes, full timers have to have open availability, although if you work at one of the good stores and are a great worker, they might not want to go out of their way to upset you. 'Needs of the business' just means that it's cheaper to scatter one person's schedule around than to hire another person to pick up the odd shifts.

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We got a full timer that hand picks his hours exactly what he wants to work. Works like 4 days a week, sometimes 3. No one says a damn thing. It depends on the department manager.



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And,. That's how Accidents happen...Burning people out!.... I'm in the same boat Somewhat..I've been scheduled 6 days in a row at least Three times in two months recently... A (CO  Mgr) changed my (unavailability )to Tuesday n Saturday,. Now because a PET cryed, different Co-Mgr says Noo, you only get One day to claim unavailable.....this Same Mgr had been listening to the conversation when First Mgr changed it, Didn't say a word...lol   2nd Mgr is supposed to be the HR Mgr...



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And at same time, I have been scheduled Fri, Sat, Sunday, for Five years., Meanwhile, person that started After me to this day Four n half Yrs later had Fri, Sat, And Sunday Off... Explain that one!  I just brought that one up to Same mgr that's supposed to be the HR Mgr that said I can only have One unavailable day.....she went Hmmm...



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And at same time, I have been scheduled Fri, Sat, Sunday, for Five years., Meanwhile, person that started After me to this day Four n half Yrs later had Fri, Sat, And Sunday Off... Explain that one!  I just brought that one up to Same mgr that's supposed to be the HR Mgr that said I can only have One unavailable day.....she went Hmmm...


 Youre just a weak jack ass. speak up if you want things to happen derp



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It think it helps if you and your department manager are on the same page...It's important that everyone work together regarding schedules...Some people have school, some have other issues going on and nowadays, some people have SECOND JOBS, which can sometimes coincide with their first jobs! It's just the way it is! So, a degree of flexibility needs to be maintained...It's NOT necessarily that people don't want to work (They may be doing MORE than you think!)...However, it's nothing that can't be worked out with a little communication...



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It think it helps if you and your department manager are on the same page...It's important that everyone work together regarding schedules...Some people have school, some have other issues going on and nowadays, some people have SECOND JOBS, which can sometimes coincide with their first jobs! It's just the way it is! So, a degree of flexibility needs to be maintained...It's NOT necessarily that people don't want to work (They may be doing MORE than you think!)...However, it's nothing that can't be worked out with a little communication...


 Nicely put, but inaccurate.

The real problem is is that today's employers are macho control freaks who demand 100% commitment of time resources from their employees, and allow no flexibility in their open availability. The fact that they don't pay enough to make an adequate living doesn't bother them in the least. 'That's not our problem, if it's yours, go find something else to do.' WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. 

Until this dysfunctional system is reversed, we're going to continue seeing record breaking numbers of former employees fleeing their workplaces.



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