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Currently I'm 15 years old. I've been working as a bagger for 9 months now as that was what I was hired for. During my time as a bragger, I wanted to work more because I wanted something productive to do with my time. I've done markdowns, but I was only allowed to work in front end (We all know everyone who isn't full time is getting poor hours) and the store managers weren't allowed to do that for my age. But I'm turning 16 soon and was wondering if  I can work in other department but still remain a bragger?



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You have to be 18 for most departments.

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Currently I'm 15 years old. I've been working as a bagger for 9 months now as that was what I was hired for. During my time as a bragger, I wanted to work more because I wanted something productive to do with my time. I've done markdowns, but I was only allowed to work in front end (We all know everyone who isn't full time is getting poor hours) and the store managers weren't allowed to do that for my age. But I'm turning 16 soon and was wondering if  I can work in other department but still remain a bragger?


 Freudian slip?  I like to brag too but I don't think there's a job for it.



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Bagger... I'm doing this Off my phone and it doesn't recognize 'bagger' as a dictionary word so it auto corrects it.



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Bagger... I'm doing this Off my phone and it doesn't recognize 'bagger' as a dictionary word so it auto corrects it.


 Turn off auto correct.  It's a crutch.



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18 on the safe side, since being in other departments mean operating machinery/moving parts that require a minimum age requirement.


Our cardboard baler also requires that the person using it be at least 18.


Technically, you can get away as a stocker at 16 or 17, as long as you don't use stuff that you're not "old enough" for. But that would mean other people having to move/break down pallets for you and put your cardboard in the baler.


You can't be a both a bagger and someone who works in another department. Sure, they can call you from a department to bag, but you can't be both at the same time.


Honestly, see if you can be moved to cashier. Wait it out until you're 17/18.





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If you were going to work in other depts you would probably need to use the baler, break down/work pallets. So until you become 18 you dont have alot of options at the moment.



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The best person would be to ask your payroll person.  If you have a good rapor with your store manager or co managers, ask them the age limit.

My nephew was working in produce while in high school, so he was either 16 or 17 when moved to that department.  His buddy from high school was working in Drug GM.  The payrate will be less than if you were 18.

Let your managers know you would like to be used in other departments if there is an opening.  Best way to get more hours is to answer your phone when called in.



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It might depend on the store, because from what i've seen, courtesy clerks remain as such until they turn 18. Once they do, they get dragged away to other departments if they're good. We had one CC move to Seafood and another one to Grocery.

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usually 16, because at 16 you can work real shifts (longer than 3 hours). I could see it working out in special cases. I've seen minors move to produce since they usually schedule a few people to work together.



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In my division, I was promoted to a part time pricing clerk at 16, albeit I lost hours. Ask about working in pricing.



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Pricing clerks in my store are all 3rd shift so minors are automatically banned. Your store is probably really small or really big. But yea I guess the only equipment they use is computers, printers and RF's -- all of which are safe.



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You can't be a both a bagger and someone who works in another department. Sure, they can call you from a department to bag, but you can't be both at the same time.


 Not true at all. Your store may treat it that way, but it's not that way in my contract and from what I've seen on here, most others are similar. You can do 5 jobs on 5 different days with no problem.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.

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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 

That's what I was trying to say. One can't be categorized into more than one department/job title.

 

 

Actually, I'm still listed under Front End's schedule, but has "HBC Clerk" on the days I work. So much for being a nutrition whore, eh?



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 But at least in my area, most baggers are store clerks anyway. I have 70+ FE employees but only ~10 are courtesy clerks.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 But at least in my area, most baggers are store clerks anyway. I have 70+ FE employees but only ~10 are courtesy clerks.


 I doubt they are. Store clerks earn more and get raises. CC's do not. Kroger would never hire a cashier solely to bag and get carts.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 But at least in my area, most baggers are store clerks anyway. I have 70+ FE employees but only ~10 are courtesy clerks.


 I doubt they are. Store clerks earn more and get raises. CC's do not. Kroger would never hire a cashier solely to bag and get carts.


 Don't make the mistake of assuming I was only guessing when I made that statement. I'm the FE backup, so I'm more than familiar enough with my personnel to know.

And you're right, Kroger doesn't hire cashiers to just bag and push carts; they hire them to also run a register when they need relief help.

In fact, unless a store makes 1+1 goals 100% of the time and uses 0 relief help to do it, they would be negligent to not have as many of their baggers trained to check as possible.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 But at least in my area, most baggers are store clerks anyway. I have 70+ FE employees but only ~10 are courtesy clerks.


 I doubt they are. Store clerks earn more and get raises. CC's do not. Kroger would never hire a cashier solely to bag and get carts.


 Don't make the mistake of assuming I was only guessing when I made that statement. I'm the FE backup, so I'm more than familiar enough with my personnel to know.

And you're right, Kroger doesn't hire cashiers to just bag and push carts; they hire them to also run a register when they need relief help.

In fact, unless a store makes 1+1 goals 100% of the time and uses 0 relief help to do it, they would be negligent to not have as many of their baggers trained to check as possible.


 Any remotely intelligent member of management would never let a bagger on a register. The bagger obviously wouldn't mind, but the bagger or even other cashiers could file a grievance. The bagger could file it for performing duties beyond their contract. The cashiers could file it for lost hours. Cashiers can bag, but baggers should never check until they get coded as a clerk and paid as a clerk.



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You can't be coded in as all though right? Because if you're a CC you shouldn't be stocking shelves.


This is true. If you're a courtesy clerk, then you can't even 'help' other departments. Store clerks can float around, but CC's can't.


 But at least in my area, most baggers are store clerks anyway. I have 70+ FE employees but only ~10 are courtesy clerks.


 I doubt they are. Store clerks earn more and get raises. CC's do not. Kroger would never hire a cashier solely to bag and get carts.


 Don't make the mistake of assuming I was only guessing when I made that statement. I'm the FE backup, so I'm more than familiar enough with my personnel to know.

And you're right, Kroger doesn't hire cashiers to just bag and push carts; they hire them to also run a register when they need relief help.

In fact, unless a store makes 1+1 goals 100% of the time and uses 0 relief help to do it, they would be negligent to not have as many of their baggers trained to check as possible.


 Any remotely intelligent member of management would never let a bagger on a register. The bagger obviously wouldn't mind, but the bagger or even other cashiers could file a grievance. The bagger could file it for performing duties beyond their contract. The cashiers could file it for lost hours. Cashiers can bag, but baggers should never check until they get coded as a clerk and paid as a clerk.


 OK, you need to understand the difference between how employees are coded and how they are scheduled.

"Courtesy clerk" is how someone is coded; "bagger" is how they're scheduled. Courtesies can generally only be scheduled as baggers, with a very few exceptions.

"Store clerks" can do pretty much any task, and as such they can be scheduled as a bagger or cashier.

"Any remotely intelligent member of management" should have no problem putting a bagger on a register, so long as that "bagger" is actually a "store clerk" who was just scheduled to bag, but knows how to run a register.



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Yes, courtesy clerks can run registers whether in an official capacity or not. Besides, nowadays the baggers wouldn't mind, even if it's just to let a cashier go to break (which the cashier would definitely appreciate). Now, they can't be running registers for hours on end, since their job is well.. be a courtesy clerk. Like what techelite said, it's very few exceptions that they can run registers longer than for relief.


Supposedly, there's a reason why our store has different cashier numbers for people coded differently. For example, courtesy clerk numbers are 1xx, grocery clerks are 8xx, and so on.



Starting next week, my time will be divvied up between the front and the back. Haven't seen anyone raise a fuss over that.

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Yes, courtesy clerks can run registers whether in an official capacity or not. Besides, nowadays the baggers wouldn't mind, even if it's just to let a cashier go to break (which the cashier would definitely appreciate). Now, they can't be running registers for hours on end, since their job is well.. be a courtesy clerk. Like what techelite said, it's very few exceptions that they can run registers longer than for relief.


Supposedly, there's a reason why our store has different cashier numbers for people coded differently. For example, courtesy clerk numbers are 1xx, grocery clerks are 8xx, and so on.



Starting next week, my time will be divvied up between the front and the back. Haven't seen anyone raise a fuss over that.


 Surely you must mean "baggers" are running the register and not actual courtesy clerks because actual CCs can't do that period, even if it's for a short period.

Unfortunately, eschedule complicates things by calling all baggers courtesy clerks, when that is just the name of how they are scheduled. Both actual CCs and store clerks get scheduled as Courtesies in esched, but even a store clerk scheduled as a CC remains a store clerk. I hope that is how you think CCs can run a lane.

 



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Yes, courtesy clerks can run registers whether in an official capacity or not. Besides, nowadays the baggers wouldn't mind, even if it's just to let a cashier go to break (which the cashier would definitely appreciate). Now, they can't be running registers for hours on end, since their job is well.. be a courtesy clerk. Like what techelite said, it's very few exceptions that they can run registers longer than for relief.


Supposedly, there's a reason why our store has different cashier numbers for people coded differently. For example, courtesy clerk numbers are 1xx, grocery clerks are 8xx, and so on.



Starting next week, my time will be divvied up between the front and the back. Haven't seen anyone raise a fuss over that.


 Surely you must mean "baggers" are running the register and not actual courtesy clerks because actual CCs can't do that period, even if it's for a short period.

Unfortunately, eschedule complicates things by calling all baggers courtesy clerks, when that is just the name of how they are scheduled. Both actual CCs and store clerks get scheduled as Courtesies in esched, but even a store clerk scheduled as a CC remains a store clerk. I hope that is how you think CCs can run a lane.

 


 

My must be in violation of something then.

 

I've asked to some of my friends, they say they're coded as courtesy clerks. I understand what you're saying, a few of my friends really are coded as courtesy clerks. Mine used to say "Grocery Clerk" so I'd know some form of difference between the two.

 

 

I know someone who was hired as a courtesy clerk but yet is asked to do Deli stuff.

 

 

My store is a backwards-ass cesspit of ignorance and anarchy. Probably explains my grouchiness.



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If they are coded as a CC and are working in the deli, they are getting seriously underpaid and should file a grievance.

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If they are coded as a CC and are working in the deli, they are getting seriously underpaid and should file a grievance.


 Not necessarily.

My contract, for example, has tasks in other depts that CCs can do. They can hang tags, condition/clean (but not stock) grocery, and something (I can't remember what) in deli.

This was all new in our latest contract. They didn't get better pay out of it, but they do now keep seniority when determining pay rate if they move to store clerk.

 

 

 



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If they are coded as a CC and are working in the deli, they are getting seriously underpaid and should file a grievance.


 If I was a bagger making minimum wage I wouldn't touch the deli. Sure throw me in floral or nonfoods, but not the only dept worse than front end.



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