what the hell is up with grocery always having to tie the bales? other departments use the baler. im looking at you deli bakery. you always bring a **** ton of cardboard at once and then when it doesnt fit you ask "geee wheres Dave? he needs to get his ass over here and tie a bale because he doesnt have any backstock to work or holes to fill." how about you learn how to make this magical object called a bale. id be more than downright joy filled to show you. if nobody else learns soon then i will start throwing damaged dairy into the baler before my shift ends for you all to enjoy.
It's actually fair either way, whether you like it or not. While all depts use the baler, grocery alone gets the hours to bale.
all depts get hours for cleaning things. a bale only takes like 10 minutes if you actually get 2+ people to do it.
No, baling hours aren't grouped under other cleaning tasks. Hours specifically for baling are given only to grocery and are titled "baling cardboard" or something similar. My store gets ~10.7 hours per week.
And like I said, either way is fair, and either way somebody will bitch.
It's actually fair either way, whether you like it or not. While all depts use the baler, grocery alone gets the hours to bale.
all depts get hours for cleaning things. a bale only takes like 10 minutes if you actually get 2+ people to do it.
No, baling hours aren't grouped under other cleaning tasks. Hours specifically for baling are given only to grocery and are titled "baling cardboard" or something similar. My store gets ~10.7 hours per week.
And like I said, either way is fair, and either way somebody will bitch.
if nobody else learns soon then i will start throwing damaged dairy into the baler before my shift ends for you all to enjoy.
Let me tell you a few things.
First, those cameras work. I swear, they do. And they've got pretty good views of the entire receiving/back room. My manager even used them to help me guide to find a pallet buried underneath crap.
How often are those cameras checked or maintained? Well, quite often. They're used from the most mundane of things to the most serious issues. I know the front end supervisor viewed cameras to see who touched his drink while it was on the customer service desk. They also use those to see who didn't clean up after themselves in the break room.
Now, something like dairy or other perishable items being tossed in the baler? That's something that's a bit serious, so you can bet your ass that they'll see you on the monitor tossing product in the machine.
if nobody else learns soon then i will start throwing damaged dairy into the baler before my shift ends for you all to enjoy.
Let me tell you a few things.
First, those cameras work. I swear, they do. And they've got pretty good views of the entire receiving/back room. My manager even used them to help me guide to find a pallet buried underneath crap.
How often are those cameras checked or maintained? Well, quite often. They're used from the most mundane of things to the most serious issues. I know the front end supervisor viewed cameras to see who touched his drink while it was on the customer service desk. They also use those to see who didn't clean up after themselves in the break room.
Now, something like dairy or other perishable items being tossed in the baler? That's something that's a bit serious, so you can bet your ass that they'll see you on the monitor tossing product in the machine.
there is a camera by the trash and baler but not dairy. i can throw some rotten eggs and milk in a box, close it up, and then toss it in the baler and nobody would notice until it started to smell.
there is a camera by the trash and baler but not dairy. i can throw some rotten eggs and milk in a box, close it up, and then toss it in the baler and nobody would notice until it started to smell.
Right. And your reason for being in and out of the dairy cooler and being spotted by several cameras doing so would be.... ? Remember, you're aggravated enough to complain about bale so I doubt they'd believe you when you say "oh, I was just getting X's cardboard refuse to save him some load off of his work!".
smh
And I thought the whole "he's not doing this, so I'll screw with that" thing was a kid's thing. Man, have I been proven wrong here or what.
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Monday 28th of April 2014 01:29:03 AM
I love changing the bale. I have it down to 5 minutes when I tie it by myself. When someone helps me, it takes 15 minutes. My record is 3 bales in a 14 hour shift. Another 30 minutes and I would have tied a forth that day...I work grocery.
What is wrong with your coworkers not wanting to change the bale?
I work in bakery and I was never shown how to do a bale. In over 2 years no one has ever bothered to show me.
But I only bring cardboard back one time a day. You grocery people, as well as Drug/GM, are putting much more in. I'm not saying no one should ever help you, but if you get the time for it in ELMS, that's much more than what we get.
I work in bakery and I was never shown how to do a bale. In over 2 years no one has ever bothered to show me.
But I only bring cardboard back one time a day. You grocery people, as well as Drug/GM, are putting much more in. I'm not saying no one should ever help you, but if you get the time for it in ELMS, that's much more than what we get.
lol, Umm, ELMS says we can get 60 hours worth of work done with 4 people working a 6 hour shift while jumping thru a flaming hoop with one hand tied behind our back with time to spare for unforseen emergencies..
I laugh when this baler complaint comes up. People spend more time complaining about it than it actually takes to change it.
Step 1: close gaurd door, press to compact. When it gets close to the low point, hold button and the ram will stop at the low spot.
Step 2: Unscrew thingy on the left side to open large door.
Step 3: Get 4 pieces of wire. Slide them in channels. Our lower channels are marked(but you may need help with this. Basically, first channel, 3rd, 5th and then the last channel on the other side. I go thru the lower channels first and then into the top channels. You might need to poke room in the upper channels to get wire thru. While feeding wire from back, I hook the dump chains up.
Step 4: Pull wire tight thru eye on other end of wire. Wrap 5 times, send thru eye again, wrap 5 more times. Put a pallet in front of machine. Look both ways to make sure the older courtesy clerk that is always in the way at the worst possible time isn't coming from either direction towards you. Spin switch clockwise. Push and hold button to dump bale.
Step 5: Store bale in Recievers' way. Unhook dump chains. Using large pieces of carboard, put a liner down to cover entire bottom of baler. Close door and tighten door clamp back up.
Step 6: Congratulations! You have successfully changed the baler. You deserve a break now.
If you actually want to learn how to change the bale, I recommend asking an experienced bale changer to help you a couple of times until you are confident enough to do it yourself. The bales can weigh from 500-1000#. Once they drop, it will take half the workers in the store to get it off your foot! Safety first, always.
Side note: Our older courtesy clerks are always cleaning the bathrooms when I need to use it. It doesn't matter which set of bathrooms I go to, I always pick the wrong one.:)
All co-managers in my store repeat the same phrase "EVERYONE makes bales". If it's jam-packed, no one is around, and people are leaving their junk by the baler, a manager will usually call grocery.
"... i will start throwing damaged dairy into the baler before my shift ends for you all to enjoy."
I wouldn't advise that.
Agreed. It's childish to consider doing that. Not only can it bring in pests if the stuff sets, it makes a gloppy mess. at my store everyone that is trained ties bales. It isn't hard really. Just compacting it down and putting the wires in the hole things and tying it in place. I think the "hardest" thing to do is making sure the pallet is in place so it doesn't go over.
And putting damaged aged product inside the baler will only get you a well deserved write up, plus cleaning YOUR OWN mess.
My rule of thumb if a Manager tells me to tie a bale I do it. But when I see our back door receiver and grocery manager following each other around I don't worry about it.
lol, Umm, ELMS says we can get 60 hours worth of work done with 4 people working a 6 hour shift while jumping thru a flaming hoop with one hand tied behind our back with time to spare for unforseen emergencies..
LOL fair enough on that one.
But thanks for the description, that might come in handy sometime. It seems like NO one in my store ever wants to do a bale.
It's the receiver and nightcrews job to take care of the back room.
Actually it's everyone's job to keep the backroom clean since every department uses it at sometime of the day. At my store night crew usually works from 9 to 6 and DSD works from about 4 to 1. So apparently at your store everyone but the cashiers and CC's work nights? Day crew puts out stock too you know. Ever seen those magical blue boxes called grocery peytons? Those are supposed to be worked exclusively by the day grocrey clerk, but the grocery clerks at my store are always pulled away to help in other departments. And then begs the question: Why does Kroger always have one grocery clerk going solo in the daytime? Maybe it'd be better if one person was dedicated dry-grocery and the other was more of a general clerk. It just seems silly that at a grocery store the department with the least amount of employees during the day is -- wait for it -- GROCERY.
It's the receiver and nightcrews job to take care of the back room.
Actually it's everyone's job to keep the backroom clean since every department uses it at sometime of the day. At my store night crew usually works from 9 to 6 and DSD works from about 4 to 1. So apparently at your store everyone but the cashiers and CC's work nights? Day crew puts out stock too you know. Ever seen those magical blue boxes called grocery peytons? Those are supposed to be worked exclusively by the day grocrey clerk, but the grocery clerks at my store are always pulled away to help in other departments. And then begs the question: Why does Kroger always have one grocery clerk going solo in the daytime? Maybe it'd be better if one person was dedicated dry-grocery and the other was more of a general clerk. It just seems silly that at a grocery store the department with the least amount of employees during the day is -- wait for it -- GROCERY.
Ha, I know, right?
When I was moved from Nutrition to Grocery, I was the sole day grocery clerk they had. The problem? I'm a part-timer who takes classes every other day. I only come in for three days from 4-10. So for the days when I'm not there, they've got no one to haul **** around unless management wanted to get their hands dirty. What's even more amazing about this? The fact that the peytons come in on days that I'm NOT in the store. Night crew can't work them since they're busy with three trucks per week.
It's the receiver and nightcrews job to take care of the back room.
Actually it's everyone's job to keep the backroom clean since every department uses it at sometime of the day. At my store night crew usually works from 9 to 6 and DSD works from about 4 to 1. So apparently at your store everyone but the cashiers and CC's work nights? Day crew puts out stock too you know. Ever seen those magical blue boxes called grocery peytons? Those are supposed to be worked exclusively by the day grocrey clerk, but the grocery clerks at my store are always pulled away to help in other departments. And then begs the question: Why does Kroger always have one grocery clerk going solo in the daytime? Maybe it'd be better if one person was dedicated dry-grocery and the other was more of a general clerk. It just seems silly that at a grocery store the department with the least amount of employees during the day is -- wait for it -- GROCERY.
Why are you using my name?
Not that I disagree with you, though. I used to work at a store that had ZERO grocery day crew (excluding dairy because dairy people only worked dairy) after the guy who'd done it for years got fired for chasing after a thief. They just never hired anyone to take his place.
service department members should be in service departments helping customers that is what their job is none of them should be in the back room at all.. The receiver should be bringing you your supplies when they come in taking empty pallets, milk crates and other stuff out of coolers and so on, baggers take cardboard and trash out of the departments during the day and during clean up after closing. night crew works all loads out over night they have a replenishment clerk during the day that fills up things ice, water, beer, random holes. if there is no one in receiving and the baler is full then any bagger who is trained and over 18 is sent back to make one. all departments USED to get hours for cleaning things, now all cleaning hours go to the front end and they schedule people to clean as needed. front end get's 2 hours a night just to clean the meat room. dunno what part of kroger you guys work in better check that elms.
Hey there Santino. So you are saying that the front end sends up people to clean the cutting room for the meat dept? What a HALF ASSED division you must work in. WELCOME TO 3rd WORLD AMERICA. **** THAT ****.
Hey there Santino. So you are saying that the front end sends up people to clean the cutting room for the meat dept? What a HALF ASSED division you must work in. WELCOME TO 3rd WORLD AMERICA. **** THAT ****.
Exactly what I was thinking. If the meat clerks aren't doing the grunt work why the hell do they deserve that ridiculously high payscale?
Hey there Santino. So you are saying that the front end sends up people to clean the cutting room for the meat dept? What a HALF ASSED division you must work in. WELCOME TO 3rd WORLD AMERICA. **** THAT ****.
Exactly what I was thinking. If the meat clerks aren't doing the grunt work why the hell do they deserve that ridiculously high payscale?
there isn't that many people out here that get paid anything other than the meat manager. Its been less and less each contract, meat clerks here can do pretty much everything more except dairy, and cashier. They can work any service dept we got people who work bakery, service deli and meat. The full time meat manager will be the next position that will go away.
service department members should be in service departments helping customers that is what their job is none of them should be in the back room at all.. The receiver should be bringing you your supplies when they come in taking empty pallets, milk crates and other stuff out of coolers and so on, baggers take cardboard and trash out of the departments during the day and during clean up after closing. night crew works all loads out over night they have a replenishment clerk during the day that fills up things ice, water, beer, random holes. if there is no one in receiving and the baler is full then any bagger who is trained and over 18 is sent back to make one. all departments USED to get hours for cleaning things, now all cleaning hours go to the front end and they schedule people to clean as needed. front end get's 2 hours a night just to clean the meat room. dunno what part of kroger you guys work in better check that elms.
That's not the way it's done. It depends on how big your store is and how many hours they get. Some cannot spare the courtesy clerks. Some cannot even spare Utility Clerks. Most utility clerks at my store have to stay up front and bag. Usually just one Utility Clerk is getting trash doing restrooms and sweeps and their is no time to go into Deli and Bakery and other departments to get trash they just get trash on the lot and around the store except the departments. That's the way it's been and the way the manager said to do it.
We sure do work for a sorry ass company. Corporate should run their side like they run the stores. So they could be miserable and over worked and underpaid and have to do with out. Gotta love it.
