I quit Kroger in March. I didn't fill out a quit the union card thing. What does the quit the union thing do? Do I get all the stolen money from my paycheck back? I was paying "UNION DUES 1" and "UNION ARREARS" and by the time I quit I think "UNION ARREARS" stopped coming out of my paycheck. I quit because the money taken from my paycheck TWICE was basically working below minimum wage... Which I won't do.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix; if you pay for it you get the benefits, when you quit you don't get your money back. I just did the math and I pay $0.11/hr to the union and in return I get job security, health insurance, a great payscale at the high levels, and defense against unjust firing.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix...
Why does one have to be forced to join and pay for a union that they don't want to be part of if they're not in a right-to-work state? After all, like you said, the union is a subscription like Netflix.
Tell me, do you see Netflix taking money from me even though I don't have a subscription with them?
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Friday 23rd of May 2014 12:59:30 AM
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix; if you pay for it you get the benefits, when you quit you don't get your money back. I just did the math and I pay $0.11/hr to the union and in return I get job security, health insurance, a great payscale at the high levels, and defense against unjust firing.
gotta love the union bs unjust firing and so on I worked in a few states didn't join the union and was just fine, it was pretty funny though they only time the company did want to get rid of a few people well you know they were union or course
From everything I've read on here, the UFCW is bull $hit. As they apply to Kroger employees, they embody everything that has abominated unions......and UNIONS are a force this country needs now as ever before.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix...
Why does one have to be forced to join and pay for a union that they don't want to be part of if they're not in a right-to-work state? After all, like you said, the union is a subscription like Netflix.
Tell me, do you see Netflix taking money from me even though I don't have a subscription with them?
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Friday 23rd of May 2014 12:59:30 AM
I would agree with you if working at union jobs was required, but it isn't. If you don't want to pay the dues get a non-union job.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix...
Why does one have to be forced to join and pay for a union that they don't want to be part of if they're not in a right-to-work state? After all, like you said, the union is a subscription like Netflix.
Tell me, do you see Netflix taking money from me even though I don't have a subscription with them?
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Friday 23rd of May 2014 12:59:30 AM
I would agree with you if working at union jobs was required, but it isn't. If you don't want to pay the dues get a non-union job.
So if I was working at a company that the other employees decided to unionize, I'll have to pack my ass and leave the job I've held for quite a while?
Then again.. this is Kroger and the UFCW we're talking about. There's a reason why high-paying jobs, hell, even managers on up, don't have to be in a union. It's because they like the ungarnished paycheck that they receive.
*sigh* All the more reason to get my degree and get the hell out of here.
when you quit kroger you quit the union but not really. if you get another job covered by the same union you're still a member and will be paying there too.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix...
Why does one have to be forced to join and pay for a union that they don't want to be part of if they're not in a right-to-work state? After all, like you said, the union is a subscription like Netflix.
Tell me, do you see Netflix taking money from me even though I don't have a subscription with them?
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Friday 23rd of May 2014 12:59:30 AM
I would agree with you if working at union jobs was required, but it isn't. If you don't want to pay the dues get a non-union job.
So if I was working at a company that the other employees decided to unionize, I'll have to pack my ass and leave the job I've held for quite a while?
Then again.. this is Kroger and the UFCW we're talking about. There's a reason why high-paying jobs, hell, even managers on up, don't have to be in a union. It's because they like the ungarnished paycheck that they receive.
*sigh* All the more reason to get my degree and get the hell out of here.
Managers aren't in the union, because kroger wouldn't like the people running the stores to be influenced by them. Works like that in almost all business that have union employees.
You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix...
Why does one have to be forced to join and pay for a union that they don't want to be part of if they're not in a right-to-work state? After all, like you said, the union is a subscription like Netflix.
Tell me, do you see Netflix taking money from me even though I don't have a subscription with them?
-- Edited by NutritionWhore on Friday 23rd of May 2014 12:59:30 AM
I would agree with you if working at union jobs was required, but it isn't. If you don't want to pay the dues get a non-union job.
So if I was working at a company that the other employees decided to unionize, I'll have to pack my ass and leave the job I've held for quite a while?
Then again.. this is Kroger and the UFCW we're talking about. There's a reason why high-paying jobs, hell, even managers on up, don't have to be in a union. It's because they like the ungarnished paycheck that they receive.
*sigh* All the more reason to get my degree and get the hell out of here.
You'd be fired if you didn't unionize, yes. Think of it like a microcosm of how the United States' government works.
Union dues (at least mine) aren't a percentage of my income, they're a flat rate. Once you start making $50,000+ like store managers do you stop giving a **** about $100-300 a year.
Some locals have you pay a month in advance, and don't have initiation fees. 30 days before you're in the union = dues start at fifth check. Pay one month in advance = four weeks of "arrears." When you leave Kroger, call the office and tell them you want that month back. Simple. They aren't super good about telling people that, but you can definitely do it, at least at some Locals.
I don't know about you guys but I'm in a right-to-work state and when I joined Kroger, I was told I had to join the union because in my contract it says something along the lines of "any employee who leaves the union is no longer in good standing and subject to termination."
I don't know about you guys but I'm in a right-to-work state and when I joined Kroger, I was told I had to join the union because in my contract it says something along the lines of "any employee who leaves the union is no longer in good standing and subject to termination."
You can't leave if you never joined in the first place xP
Still, having a clause like that is definitely something they can't enforce, unless they want lawsuits left and right. Are you sure you really are in a right-to-work state?
Remember, there's a difference between having sleazy union reps con you into joining through sweet talk and pressure/intimidation.
And what contract? The "contracts" I had to sign were basically just random guidelines like grooming, theft, etc.
Last I checked Kroger was the one that supplied the health insurance, not the union. It's really interesting seeing how dishonest the union can be. But hey, it's their job, right? Their pay checks come from signing clerks up and nailing them all for $10 a week, $40 a month and $480 a year.
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You're a dumbass. If you didn't want to pay union dues why did you take a union job? Did you just not expect to have to pay anything? :facepalm:
No, you don't get your money back. The union is a subscription like Netflix; if you pay for it you get the benefits, when you quit you don't get your money back. I just did the math and I pay $0.11/hr to the union and in return I get job security, health insurance, a great payscale at the high levels, and defense against unjust firing.
Since I had my 5th paycheck I notice there was a 'Union Arrears and Union Dues 1' on my 'Taxes' row
I didn't even know what the heck it was and thought, okay this seem like a rip off I went to talk to my manager to find out what is the Union on my paycheck... She told me its like bills that needs to be paid, ones that havent been paid off For example, if you have hospital bills and havent paid for it yet, your paycheck is paying the hospital bill at some percentage
You can always call the Union Hall to find out how much you owe if you dont already know (212) 873-6000 E: 2083
Quitting your job because of the Union taxes on your paycheck, kinda a wrong choice to do And the 'stolen money', its not stolen, it bills you needed to pay for, and besides...that stolen money...it was only 15$, alot less than all the other taxes that came out of your paycheck
Since I had my 5th paycheck I notice there was a 'Union Arrears and Union Dues 1' on my 'Taxes' row
I didn't even know what the heck it was and thought, okay this seem like a rip off I went to talk to my manager to find out what is the Union on my paycheck... She told me its like bills that needs to be paid, ones that havent been paid off For example, if you have hospital bills and havent paid for it yet, your paycheck is paying the hospital bill at some percentage
You can always call the Union Hall to find out how much you owe if you dont already know (212) 873-6000 E: 2083
Quitting your job because of the Union taxes on your paycheck, kinda a wrong choice to do And the 'stolen money', its not stolen, it bills you needed to pay for, and besides...that stolen money...it was only 15$, alot less than all the other taxes that came out of your paycheck
From everything I've read on here, the UFCW is bull $hit. As they apply to Kroger employees, they embody everything that has abominated unions......and UNIONS are a force this country needs now as ever before.
Its not that UCFW is bull**** its the fact that members are lazy and just want money. If we're ever going to make change we need a start unionized workforce meaning members need to start attending the monthly meetings and asking questions and voting on contracts only then will we see real change. UFCW would also gain great people if they're able to unionize walmart as well. It would give them the ability for a strike to hurt the companies more which would make them negotiate better contracts in the long term.
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My Views and Opinions do not reflect that of the Kroger company. I'm an indivdual expressing my 1st amendment right.
Insurance is negotiated by the union. If you have Taft-Hartley insurance thank your union, and know that opting out will make your insurance worse long-term.
the insurance in those cases is not "provided by the company," and the board of trustees is made up of half members from the company, and half members from the union.
