Yesterday (Tuesday, since it's after Midnight), I was scheduled to work from 4-11:30. I got there at 3:45 and went to my locker to put my purse in there and get my apron. After getting settled, I went to go clock in at 3:50. I clocked in and went up to Customer Service to find out what register I was going to. I go to my assigned register to take the current cashier off so they could go home and a manager at the next register told me that I wasn't supposed to clock in or take anybody off because it wasn't 4 yet. Note that the cashier I took off was going home at 4. May I add that I clock in 5-10 minutes early an take a cashier off early for every shift and nobody has ever said anything until now.
In our division our time clock locks us out if we clocked in 10 minutes early. Here, we go by the 7 minute rule. Sign in 7 minutes early, 7 minutes late, take 22 minute breaks and 37 minute lunches, and sign out 7 minutes early or 7 minutes late.
Yesterday (Tuesday, since it's after Midnight), I was scheduled to work from 4-11:30. I got there at 3:45 and went to my locker to put my purse in there and get my apron. After getting settled, I went to go clock in at 3:50. I clocked in and went up to Customer Service to find out what register I was going to. I go to my assigned register to take the current cashier off so they could go home and a manager at the next register told me that I wasn't supposed to clock in or take anybody off because it wasn't 4 yet. Note that the cashier I took off was going home at 4. May I add that I clock in 5-10 minutes early an take a cashier off early for every shift and nobody has ever said anything until now.
Sounds like that manager has something against you. As far as I know, payroll only takes into account any punches made every 15 minutes. Meaning, you'll still get paid 7.5 hours for clocking in 10 min. early, but will be paid 7.75 hours if you clock in 15 minutes early.
My store echoes the 7 minute rule from the Anon. poster above.
Same here.
But I hold myself to certain personal standards.
So let's say that I was supposed to work, oh let's take yesterday's schedule from 1:30 - 6:00.
Well if I come in a few minutes late and for whatever reason don't clock in until, say, 1:40 or 1:45?
I will work until 6:10 or 6:15 to ensure I get the full hours. Done this more than once and never had anything said to me from management or supervisors.
Generally I am careful about going past the hour #s though. And yes, our store follows the seven-minute-rule. Which is actually kind of nice if you've managed to make it to clock in on time. If I have to get off at 11 p.m. and have been dealing with clearing the parking lot of carts that late at night, well, it's nice to be able to clock out at 10:53 - 10:55 p.m. You'd think that the extra few minutes wouldn't make a difference, but psychologically they do.
Yesterday (Tuesday, since it's after Midnight), I was scheduled to work from 4-11:30. I got there at 3:45 and went to my locker to put my purse in there and get my apron. After getting settled, I went to go clock in at 3:50. I clocked in and went up to Customer Service to find out what register I was going to. I go to my assigned register to take the current cashier off so they could go home and a manager at the next register told me that I wasn't supposed to clock in or take anybody off because it wasn't 4 yet. Note that the cashier I took off was going home at 4. May I add that I clock in 5-10 minutes early an take a cashier off early for every shift and nobody has ever said anything until now.
Sounds like that manager has something against you. As far as I know, payroll only takes into account any punches made every 15 minutes. Meaning, you'll still get paid 7.5 hours for clocking in 10 min. early, but will be paid 7.75 hours if you clock in 15 minutes early.
It measures it as a 15 minute range beginning 7 minutes before and after every quarter hour (ex: 6:53-7:07, 7:08-7:23, 7:24-7:38, 7:39-52 are the respective ranges for shifts beginning at 7, 7:15, 7:30, and 7:45). By clocking in 10 minutes early Danielle ended up in the 6:38-6:52 period, resulting in her being paid .25*wage more than she was budgeted for (plus other contract specific stuff, like an evening premium).
Unless it were for some reason specified otherwise in a specific contract, I can't see why any division wouldn't use the same rule. It's just rounding to the nearest 1/4 hour...
You were not told to clock in early by a supervisor or manager so you were stealing time. That early ring cost them 15 minutes in budget and hours are already maxed out. We look for people to send home early to bank hours for when we need them.
If you're in a store that still uses a ring error sheet, I would not sign off on it for you.
As other say, the Kronos time clock system follows the seven minute rule. It seems to get fussy if you clock before 7am though. I've seen it lock people out scheduled at 7 if they hit it at 6:58.
I agree with the ring sheet. We use to use those and had people clock in early to get "extra" on their paychecks. EVEN. If they weren't stealing time... They were spoken to about it. But as for not signing off on a ring error sheet, that would fail because at our store, and old manager tried that an got into tons of trouble for not making sure the person who clocked in early, got their extra pay. I make a decent enough wage, and even though an extra 15 min would be nice, I know to clock in and out when I am supposed to
