I was a junior employee, in a highly credentialed career profile that was tricked into resigning in lieu of dismissal under the spoken promise of not recording in my personal file that this would be the case by HR. I followed company policy of notifying the immediate superior, as per company rules of a regulation problem. The supervisor did nothing until he inadvertantly was informed of the regulation problem by a third party.
I am effectively black listed from Kroger. However, now I am finding that different company job apps are asking the very same question stated above. This is causing unemployment problems with a career I cannot walk away from, which I can also document. I have not had any luck fixing the labor file. I am thinking of pursuing litigation. Any advice?
How is Kroger keeping you from finding gainful employment? Have you seen the unemployment numbers lately?
Yes, you will be blacklisted from being hired by Kroger. But, I doubt they share the reason why with any employer that calls them due to liabilty. The basic info Kroger will give is yes you worked there.
I am wondering if you called the health department or someone like that.
u should call labor relations directly please tell them to clear your name. There should not be something known as "blacklisting" if there is then guess what you got a case. This is your life and no one should hold you like this.
I feel like a lot of information is missing from this particular case.
Exactly! A lot more information is needed...
To to the OP, what state are you in? In most states an employer can get rid of you for any reason except for discrimination. Even if you were fired for not following the company's rules and it was found that you did follow the is not an actionable cause (Unless you're in a union). Many companies will give you the courtesy of resigning before you're so you can say you don't have to say you've been fired.
What ar the job apps asking specifically?
As far as not being able to find a job, it might not be a case of being blacklisted, the ebony is bad and thousands of people see applying for the same job...
Many companies will give you the courtesy of resigning before you're so you can say you don't have to say you've been fired.
I would rather be fired than quit. That's why they try to get you to "quit" so they don't have to pay unemployment.
While this is true it looks a lot worse on paper and that's what hiring managers look at.... the papers.
Exactly, the unemployment part is a good point but many states only give unemployment if you became unemployed "through no fault of your own" quitting would make you unemployed through your own fault. If you were fired you'd have to prove you were fired through no fault of your own, if you could make that argument you could make the argument saying you quit because you were going to be fired, it was going to happen you chose to resign because it would look better in your employment record.
the fact is many companies give you the courtesy because getting fired could be the black curse of death on any employment application. Many companies won't hire you if you say you were fired. All it takes is one click of the button from the hiring manager on hiring software such as taleo & brassring etc to automatically weed out candidates who chose the option that they've been fired from any job. You lie and say you were never fired, you might get hired but all these applications warn that you could be terminated if they check your references and find you lied on the application.
The he catch really is that on almost every job application I've seen has a questions that asks something similar to "have you ever been terminated OR asked to resign blah blah blah instead of being terminated?"
Can one be fired for A first time offense like forgetting to clock out for a 15 minute break? No other offenses just forgot to clock and then next thing i know I am being let go what gives ? Now warning verbal or other wise just sorry have to let you go ..Power hungry manager? any insight is appreciated. I pay my union dues but have no clue who is our union rep. or how to handle this wrongful termination...any help is appreciated.
Can one be fired for A first time offense like forgetting to clock out for a 15 minute break? No other offenses just forgot to clock and then next thing i know I am being let go what gives ? Now warning verbal or other wise just sorry have to let you go ..Power hungry manager? any insight is appreciated. I pay my union dues but have no clue who is our union rep. or how to handle this wrongful termination...any help is appreciated.
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You need to find out who your union rep is and proceed from there. If you can't do that on your own, we can't help you anyways.
Can one be fired for A first time offense like forgetting to clock out for a 15 minute break? No other offenses just forgot to clock and then next thing i know I am being let go what gives ? Now warning verbal or other wise just sorry have to let you go ..Power hungry manager? any insight is appreciated. I pay my union dues but have no clue who is our union rep. or how to handle this wrongful termination...any help is appreciated.
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power hungry managers are a pain in the ass. I have one and she is also a know-it-all whom claims 20 years with Kroger and no matter what you do, she thinks you do it wrong. It's gotten to the point where when my schedule comes out I write hers down too to know if I am working with her or not.
As a courtesy clerk - bagger - I will go out of my way to avoid bagging for her if she is on register because I don't need eagle eyes watching me making me nervous or judging every item I put into a damn bag.
Check with your union rep, and also get in writing why you were terminated. Make them tell you. But DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING EVER. SIGNING SOMETHING could make it worse. There are people who work for this company that WILL screw you over. Unless it's your initial contract upon employment, sign nothing. But you have the right to get it in writing, so do it. Start from there. Make sure your union rep gets a copy.
also, what would be the best legal recourse. As I said, this is affecting new employment opportunities, particularly government, which asks these things. Also, if people didn't know, Kroger uses The Work Number, which gives our employment info to a central database--this is like a work history report...
Unfortunately I was non-union, not on the floor, didn't have to clock in. It was related to some other nonsense--documented I followed proper procedures. Would suing for losses due to not finding other work based on the capriciousness of the company be a venue?
I was wrongfully terminated from King Soopers in Denver, CO after 5 years employment as a checker based on nothing but capricious nonsense. I went to unemployment benefits appeals and got unemployment. I have called at least 10 lawyers looking for one to sue King Soopers for wrongful termination on a contingency fee basis, but none of them were willing to take the case without a retainer fee. Does anyone know of any lawyers in the Denver area who might be willing to do it ? If you do, please post their name here. Thanks.
-- Edited by posterboy on Monday 1st of December 2014 12:13:00 PM
From my knowledge the termination code is negative and there is several emails of the HR person going to the store, but are vague on the situation. From my understanding, the hiring manager at a Krogers would see the red flag and the note. Are these things very serious and prevent rehiring? Additionally, what is the company's policy of giving out your labor record to other employer's? I have been told they can say anything. I am worried about them disclosing why I resigned.
I once heard an employee refer to Krogers as "the Krapper...clap...clap," like from the old commerical for the clapper.
I was harassed and wrongfully terminated from the Postal Service. Through the grievance process, I've easily obtained my job back (including back pay, etc...). I have an EEOC complaint which was sent to Wash. D.C. 2 1/2 years ago. I'm awaiting their final appeal decision and the "right to sue" letter. I have civil issues surrounding this problem. Can anyone help me find an Wrongful Termination Attorney who can take a Federal civil case on a contingency? I have a good case which is why I believe the Office of Equal Employment in Washington is taking so long in providing a decision. Details in my case would take far too long to list on this site.