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My store is always cold and it seems like the air conditioning is on instead of the heat.  I was sitting in our break room yesterday, and a blast of icy cold air was coming from the vents.  I was told that management had no control over this, and that the temperature is actually regulated from a central location.  I've also heard that they keep the bigger stores colder so customers perishables won't go bad during their shopping trip.  Is there anyone that can confirm this or has any other theories about this?



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I can't believe this is actually a thread....

 

If you feel cold at Kroger then you're not working hard enough. Sorry but that's the truth.

 



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My store is always cold and it seems like the air conditioning is on instead of the heat.  I was sitting in our break room yesterday, and a blast of icy cold air was coming from the vents.  I was told that management had no control over this, and that the temperature is actually regulated from a central location.  I've also heard that they keep the bigger stores colder so customers perishables won't go bad during their shopping trip.  Is there anyone that can confirm this or has any other theories about this?


 

The larger the building/facilities, the more it is kept cool. You've got a lot of things running the the store. It's why the coldest room outside of the fridge(s) is the store's server/computer room. The lights themselves generate heat, and so does the freezer aisle. Not only that, but the large amounts of people in the store also generate heat.

How cold it is in the store depends on what the thermostat feels. 9/10 it's set on auto at a certain temperature. If there's something hot near the thermostat, it'll keep blowing cold air.

Whether it's controlled from one location? I highly doubt it. I've been in three different Kroger stores in a day once, and they've had a different feel to them (with the larger Kroger with 20+ aisles being the coldest).

 

They want customer's perishables to last? Then they'd need to set it to the same temperature as a basic refrigerator.

 

Now, the issue would be if there's wind blowing through the vents at the same temperature as the air outside.



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money. The Refrigeration is the only thing that they care about keeping the right temperature. They just want to keep it cool enough in there stores so that chocolate does not melt and warm enough so bottles/glass doesn't  break. Most of the time they just take the air from outside and pump it into the store so the air stays.. How I know that one time someone in the neighborhood behind the store was having a fire in there backyard and we thought the store was on fire but in fact it was just the air being pumped inside. 



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money. The Refrigeration is the only thing that they care about keeping the right temperature. They just want to keep it cool enough in there stores so that chocolate does not melt and warm enough so bottles/glass doesn't  break. Most of the time they just take the air from outside and pump it into the store so the air stays.. How I know that one time someone in the neighborhood behind the store was having a fire in there backyard and we thought the store was on fire but in fact it was just the air being pumped inside. 


 air stays fresh** With how many customers and employees germs are in the air fresh air intake reduces the germs in the air. 



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money. The Refrigeration is the only thing that they care about keeping the right temperature. They just want to keep it cool enough in there stores so that chocolate does not melt and warm enough so bottles/glass doesn't  break. Most of the time they just take the air from outside and pump it into the store so the air stays.. How I know that one time someone in the neighborhood behind the store was having a fire in there backyard and we thought the store was on fire but in fact it was just the air being pumped inside. 


 

Well of course air has to be pumped inside. Do you know what the other two expensive options are? Well, one is to import tanks filled with  oxygen and nitrogen, circulating them throughout the store.

 

The second option is a decomposition reaction. Take a compound that decomposes upon reaction, and one of your products will be the diatomic oxygen and nitrogen molecules. Why is it expensive? Because it's very difficult to get nitrogen gas in a reaction. Sure, you can use sodium azide (what's used in airbag deployment), but, again, really expensive. As for the oxygen, it's also time consuming and would require a lot of reactants. Both are also very explosive.



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money. The Refrigeration is the only thing that they care about keeping the right temperature. They just want to keep it cool enough in there stores so that chocolate does not melt and warm enough so bottles/glass doesn't  break. Most of the time they just take the air from outside and pump it into the store so the air stays.. How I know that one time someone in the neighborhood behind the store was having a fire in there backyard and we thought the store was on fire but in fact it was just the air being pumped inside. 


 

Well of course air has to be pumped inside. Do you know what the other two expensive options are? Well, one is to import tanks filled with  oxygen and nitrogen, circulating them throughout the store.

 

The second option is a decomposition reaction. Take a compound that decomposes upon reaction, and one of your products will be the diatomic oxygen and nitrogen molecules. Why is it expensive? Because it's very difficult to get nitrogen gas in a reaction. Sure, you can use sodium azide (what's used in airbag deployment), but, again, really expensive. As for the oxygen, it's also time consuming and would require a lot of reactants. Both are also very explosive.


 HAHAHAHA! Awesomely funny.



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money. The Refrigeration is the only thing that they care about keeping the right temperature. They just want to keep it cool enough in there stores so that chocolate does not melt and warm enough so bottles/glass doesn't  break. Most of the time they just take the air from outside and pump it into the store so the air stays.. How I know that one time someone in the neighborhood behind the store was having a fire in there backyard and we thought the store was on fire but in fact it was just the air being pumped inside. 


 air stays fresh** With how many customers and employees germs are in the air fresh air intake reduces the germs in the air. 


 

I should point out that adding fresh air doesn't reduce the amount of pathogens in the air (if anything, they might be adding more depending on what's in the air outside). What it does is displace the current (possibly stagnant) air along with the pathogens, preferably to a vent to clean and recycle the air.



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I was told by the HR woman when she visited the store that Kroger does not care too keep the stores comfortable because it cost to much money.


 

 

That sounds about right for this pathetic greedy craphole of a company.
Bring your customers in with a fake smile and alleged deals, but make sure they aren't comfortable.
Hey, at my store our Front End makes sure people aren't comfortable, we don't need corporate working on it for us.
We had more than ten carts of go-backs today that ended up clogging the back and making it difficult for people to move through.
I ended up moving them into place to provide space.
We never have enough courtesy clerks to bag due to scheduling, so Floral comes up and bags, but when Floral has customers, there's no one to be found, because they're bagging for us.
We can't keep carts in the lobby because they put one courtesy clerk to handle the entire damn parking lot with a store with two entrances on a busy day.

There's no need to worry about cost to keeping it comfortable, Front End can phuck up things just fine.



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Yes, temperatures are controlled by a central facilities office. No, they don't give a #%¥* if the employees or customers are very comfortable. And times of the year where the temperature goes up and down day by day are more difficult to adjust for. Large hvac units with large electric motors have trouble switching from heating to cooling (and vice versa) quickly.

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Yes, temperatures are controlled by a central facilities office.


 

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I'm usually fine where I work but our store, except for the pharmacy, has been closed since August for renovation. We did without the AC during the first two months, but the heat has also been off, and this is a Michigan fall and winter. Many of our pharmacy customers have told us to report our working conditions to OSHA because of the endless dust and noise, no heat/air, and God knows what else we're breathing! Is this normal for a store undergoing renovation or should employees not be under these working conditions? I only work a couple of hours because of school but feel bad for my coworkers.



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I'm usually fine where I work but our store, except for the pharmacy, has been closed since August for renovation. We did without the AC during the first two months, but the heat has also been off, and this is a Michigan fall and winter. Many of our pharmacy customers have told us to report our working conditions to OSHA because of the endless dust and noise, no heat/air, and God knows what else we're breathing! Is this normal for a store undergoing renovation or should employees not be under these working conditions? I only work a couple of hours because of school but feel bad for my coworkers.


Noise and dust are normal, but no heat in winter is not. Most stores stay open during remodels, so they have to keep everything running.

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Actually, what's NOT normal is for a renovation to take this long.

A Kroger in my area underwent renovation to be turned into a "super" Kroger. They did it by demolishing the former Barnes and Noble store adjacent to the building. While that process took a while, the actual renovation (building the new section, re-arranging aisles, etc.) took only TWO months. Not only that, but they literally moved the entire deli, bakery, and produce department (machinery, gadget, appliances, and all) from one side of the store to the opposite. The work started at around... late September/early October. Now they're remodeling the side of the store where those service departments used to be located. Also, the pharmacy and floral storage had also been moved.


So yeah, anon, that pharmacy renovation is taking too long with conditions that aren't suitable for a proper working environment.

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Lord_Uboat wrote:

I can't believe this is actually a thread....

 

If you feel cold at Kroger then you're not working hard enough. Sorry but that's the truth.

 


 LOL I work frozen and Dairy with shorts on, other guys have hoodies and beanies and ear muffs on, I know excatly what you mean.



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Our store is an old Safeway Store with an entrance at the north side and south side.  In the winter with customers coming in and out on both sides with the wind blowing, it's freezing!  You have to in the freezer to warm up!  The cashiers are not allowed to wear anything over their shirt.  They may wear a shirt under their work shirt as long as it's white, black or gray.  In the summer, it gets kinda warm, but not too bad although the sun will blind you when it's setting.  They did a few years ago put film on most of the windows that go all the way across the front. but they didn't think it was cost affective to do the doors or the glass around the doors because they are under the eaves!  Not too smart!  I would love to see someone from corporate come and spend some time on the front when it's freezing!



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