Basically your next raise is your last one(other than contract raises) as job step 0500 = top out pay for your position. It means you've worked for 38 weeks, and have 118 weeks until your next and last raise. So, if you consider over 2 years "soon" then yes. lol
-- Edited by DeltaGrocery on Sunday 7th of December 2014 04:33:18 PM
Ug. No way in hell am I working as a courtesy clerk aka "bagger" for this company for another two years straight just for fifteen cents! This is why they can't keep positions like mine in a steady way or with a low turn over rate. That information sucks, but I needed to hear it. Thanks.
It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
What's the MD1 program? Management training?
Screw that. I wouldn't want to ever fall into the responsibility of overseeing *anything* management in Kroger.
*MY* head manager, Front End Manager, is a total bi-tc-h and is about as much of a people person as Charles Manson.
MD1 = Management development 1st stage of the program. Department managers don't go through that, just salaried store management/co-management. Depending on the division, they are rolling out department manager training programs now. It used to be "Here follow this department manager for a few weeks, you're trained!" but after so many failures from that methodology, they're finally starting to adopt a program.
If I were you, my goal would be to get into a department as a regular clerk. Much better pay/benefits. Try to get full time by proving yourself, and if you can't I'd look for other opportunities, either within the company at other locations, or outside. Another related option if you are near to the divisions HQ would be working for PLM as a set team member. Pay is about 10-12$ an hour, full time hours most of the year, eventually you can work yourself up on that side of the coin. If you don't mind physical labor(and are located close to one) the distribution centers pay/benefits are quite decent.
Most baggers are kids in school, special needs people, and retired folks who just want something to do with their time. There really is no incentive to stay in that position if you are a functioning adult.
-- Edited by DeltaGrocery on Sunday 7th of December 2014 06:36:23 PM
MD1 = Management development 1st stage of the program. Department managers don't go through that, just salaried store management/co-management. Depending on the division, they are rolling out department manager training programs now. It used to be "Here follow this department manager for a few weeks, you're trained!" but after so many failures from that methodology, they're finally starting to adopt a program.
If I were you, my goal would be to get into a department as a regular clerk. Much better pay/benefits. Try to get full time by proving yourself, and if you can't I'd look for other opportunities, either within the company at other locations, or outside. Another related option if you are near to the divisions HQ would be working for PLM as a set team member. Pay is about 10-12$ an hour, full time hours most of the year, eventually you can work yourself up on that side of the coin. If you don't mind physical labor(and are located close to one) the distribution centers pay/benefits are quite decent.
Most baggers are kids in school, special needs people, and retired folks who just want something to do with their time. There really is no incentive to stay in that position if you are a functioning adult.
-- Edited by DeltaGrocery on Sunday 7th of December 2014 06:36:23 PM
Yea I'd definitely say either get into a different department or do something entirely different for Kroger. I know that the compass team members are paid something around $10 an hour and get gas reimbursement for travel. That'd be a pretty cool job because you are constantly traveling to different stores. As for distribution center, that is another good avenue if you're near one. All the hours you want and the pay is around $12 to start I've heard. Only downside is that you're always rushing like any other warehouse. But yea, if you're a functioning adult out of high school, there's no reason to stay a bagger. Once you hit college you'll actually be able to take your classes in the morning, at night, or hell cram them all in on one day if you want.
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back.
Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments.
One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I'm actually over 18, but if you mean going to the store manager as in my immediate manager (in this case, Front End Manager), then that might not be a good idea. As I have written on here before, my Front End Manager is a total arrogant bit-ch. And as I have made myself known as a hard worker among the hardest of the courtesy clerks we have (not bragging, it's sadly true), I'm not sure she would 'let' me go to another department. To my knowledge, she would have to sign off on it at least.
Gotta tell you though, I would have a brighter view of Kroger if I got out of Front End. My future plans do NOT include this ratnest of a company, but at least I wouldn't have to fret in the parking lot or look at 12 carts of gobacks each day.
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I'm actually over 18, but if you mean going to the store manager as in my immediate manager (in this case, Front End Manager), then that might not be a good idea. As I have written on here before, my Front End Manager is a total arrogant bit-ch. And as I have made myself known as a hard worker among the hardest of the courtesy clerks we have (not bragging, it's sadly true), I'm not sure she would 'let' me go to another department. To my knowledge, she would have to sign off on it at least.
Gotta tell you though, I would have a brighter view of Kroger if I got out of Front End. My future plans do NOT include this ratnest of a company, but at least I wouldn't have to fret in the parking lot or look at 12 carts of gobacks each day.
Talk with some of the department heads and see if they need anyone. Also talk to your store manager, he may know of an upcoming opening. Leave the front end manager out of it.
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I'm actually over 18, but if you mean going to the store manager as in my immediate manager (in this case, Front End Manager), then that might not be a good idea. As I have written on here before, my Front End Manager is a total arrogant bit-ch. And as I have made myself known as a hard worker among the hardest of the courtesy clerks we have (not bragging, it's sadly true), I'm not sure she would 'let' me go to another department. To my knowledge, she would have to sign off on it at least.
Gotta tell you though, I would have a brighter view of Kroger if I got out of Front End. My future plans do NOT include this ratnest of a company, but at least I wouldn't have to fret in the parking lot or look at 12 carts of gobacks each day.
Talk with some of the department heads and see if they need anyone. Also talk to your store manager, he may know of an upcoming opening. Leave the front end manager out of it.
Wouldn't she have to approve it though before it would be official?
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I'm actually over 18, but if you mean going to the store manager as in my immediate manager (in this case, Front End Manager), then that might not be a good idea. As I have written on here before, my Front End Manager is a total arrogant bit-ch. And as I have made myself known as a hard worker among the hardest of the courtesy clerks we have (not bragging, it's sadly true), I'm not sure she would 'let' me go to another department. To my knowledge, she would have to sign off on it at least.
Gotta tell you though, I would have a brighter view of Kroger if I got out of Front End. My future plans do NOT include this ratnest of a company, but at least I wouldn't have to fret in the parking lot or look at 12 carts of gobacks each day.
Talk with some of the department heads and see if they need anyone. Also talk to your store manager, he may know of an upcoming opening. Leave the front end manager out of it.
Wouldn't she have to approve it though before it would be official?
I know there was an opening at Starbucks a little while back. Trouble I have is trying to figure out how to find out when there are openings in other departments. One of our former courtesy clerks, for instance, now works in grocery.
Just tell your store manager you wanna work in another department. If you're under 18 it'll be a little harder, but dairy tends to be good for any age. Most managers would rather put a courtesy clerk or cashier in a different department than someone completely different because you should know how to act as relief in the future. ;)
I'm actually over 18, but if you mean going to the store manager as in my immediate manager (in this case, Front End Manager), then that might not be a good idea. As I have written on here before, my Front End Manager is a total arrogant bit-ch. And as I have made myself known as a hard worker among the hardest of the courtesy clerks we have (not bragging, it's sadly true), I'm not sure she would 'let' me go to another department. To my knowledge, she would have to sign off on it at least.
Gotta tell you though, I would have a brighter view of Kroger if I got out of Front End. My future plans do NOT include this ratnest of a company, but at least I wouldn't have to fret in the parking lot or look at 12 carts of gobacks each day.
Talk with some of the department heads and see if they need anyone. Also talk to your store manager, he may know of an upcoming opening. Leave the front end manager out of it.
Wouldn't she have to approve it though before it would be official?
She probably thinks she has a say in it, but she doesn't! LOL!
i was a cross-trained bagger. they finally promoted me to cashier like 7 months in. They also didn't tell me they promoted me. I couldn't find myself on the schedule so I looked in the cashier section and poof. It's there.
And yes the front end manager has a say on who becomes a cashier. My store manager doesn't have one **** about who's on front end just as long as theres someone.
i was a cross-trained bagger. they finally promoted me to cashier like 7 months in. They also didn't tell me they promoted me. I couldn't find myself on the schedule so I looked in the cashier section and poof. It's there.
And yes the front end manager has a say on who becomes a cashier. My store manager doesn't have one **** about who's on front end just as long as theres someone.
Nobody ever argued the front end manager's authority on promoting a bagger to cashier. Read more carefully next time.
i was a cross-trained bagger. they finally promoted me to cashier like 7 months in. They also didn't tell me they promoted me. I couldn't find myself on the schedule so I looked in the cashier section and poof. It's there.
And yes the front end manager has a say on who becomes a cashier. My store manager doesn't have one **** about who's on front end just as long as theres someone.
We were discussing other departments for him to transfer to so he could leave the front end.
Btw.. I have to warn you, based on what you said earlier..
While the grass is greener in the sense of no more gobacks and buggy rounding out, the grass will be dead elswhere. Every department has that something that is frustrating. For Dairy it is keeping up with the short dates(yogurt can sneak up on you). For grocery, it WILL be the store managers.
It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
You know what MD1 money breaks down to? $15.38/hour, based on $40k/year at 50 hours a week. When I was a co-, most of my meat dept. heads made more than me. Would have been a better route to go anyway!
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It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
You know what MD1 money breaks down to? $15.38/hour, based on $40k/year at 50 hours a week. When I was a co-, most of my meat dept. heads made more than me. Would have been a better route to go anyway!
Pay depends on experience of course, also bonuses and increases every year. I think that's the incentive for management. We had a fresh off the training block co with no experience other than a college degree making less than some backups if you factored in OT. He started in the upper 30's.
Besides, co-management is really just a stepping stone, nobody is supposed to make a career out of it. Getting into corporate, or store manager positions is where you start to see the real money.
It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
You know what MD1 money breaks down to? $15.38/hour, based on $40k/year at 50 hours a week. When I was a co-, most of my meat dept. heads made more than me. Would have been a better route to go anyway!
Pay depends on experience of course, also bonuses and increases every year. I think that's the incentive for management. We had a fresh off the training block co with no experience other than a college degree making less than some backups if you factored in OT. He started in the upper 30's.
Besides, co-management is really just a stepping stone, nobody is supposed to make a career out of it. Getting into corporate, or store manager positions is where you start to see the real money.
Grocery manager at my store makes like $50K a year. Meat manager makes something like $41K. As far as non-degree jobs go, that's amazing. But our store manager brings in $90K. Of course though, every store manager is a co-manager at some point in time. I've heard that the MD1 training rate is like $12 an hour, but when you become an actual co-manager you get a $30-something-thousand salary with a bonus potential.
It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
You know what MD1 money breaks down to? $15.38/hour, based on $40k/year at 50 hours a week. When I was a co-, most of my meat dept. heads made more than me. Would have been a better route to go anyway!
Pay depends on experience of course, also bonuses and increases every year. I think that's the incentive for management. We had a fresh off the training block co with no experience other than a college degree making less than some backups if you factored in OT. He started in the upper 30's.
Besides, co-management is really just a stepping stone, nobody is supposed to make a career out of it. Getting into corporate, or store manager positions is where you start to see the real money.
Grocery manager at my store makes like $50K a year. Meat manager makes something like $41K. As far as non-degree jobs go, that's amazing. But our store manager brings in $90K. Of course though, every store manager is a co-manager at some point in time. I've heard that the MD1 training rate is like $12 an hour, but when you become an actual co-manager you get a $30-something-thousand salary with a bonus potential.
Grocery making more than meat? That's...odd. Also, 50k a year, is that with all the overtime or base pay? That'd be like 25$ an hour base pay if no OT, ridiculous, unless you're in a very high cost of living area. Here grocery managers make $18 an hour, meat managers are a bit over $20 unless they are old timers and grandfathered in like ours, he's making around $25 an hour.
It's another cruel reminder from Kroger that unless you sign up for the MD1 program, you're going to be making peanuts for the rest of your duration at Kroger.
You know what MD1 money breaks down to? $15.38/hour, based on $40k/year at 50 hours a week. When I was a co-, most of my meat dept. heads made more than me. Would have been a better route to go anyway!
Pay depends on experience of course, also bonuses and increases every year. I think that's the incentive for management. We had a fresh off the training block co with no experience other than a college degree making less than some backups if you factored in OT. He started in the upper 30's.
Besides, co-management is really just a stepping stone, nobody is supposed to make a career out of it. Getting into corporate, or store manager positions is where you start to see the real money.
Grocery manager at my store makes like $50K a year. Meat manager makes something like $41K. As far as non-degree jobs go, that's amazing. But our store manager brings in $90K. Of course though, every store manager is a co-manager at some point in time. I've heard that the MD1 training rate is like $12 an hour, but when you become an actual co-manager you get a $30-something-thousand salary with a bonus potential.
Grocery making more than meat? That's...odd. Also, 50k a year, is that with all the overtime or base pay? That'd be like 25$ an hour base pay if no OT, ridiculous, unless you're in a very high cost of living area. Here grocery managers make $18 an hour, meat managers are a bit over $20 unless they are old timers and grandfathered in like ours, he's making around $25 an hour.
Lol. Our grocery manager gets unlimited overtime because store manager says he can't leave until everything is stocked and conditioned. So a 50 hour workweek is not uncommon for him.
I want to be a meat manager!
