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Crazy people man. That's saddening it's even quite close to where I live so that's even more disturbing.

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 I work at the one nearby.  I bet when I go in tomorrow they're going to have extra security there.  The suspect is in custody but we don't know if he acted alone and this was something completely random or if he has any friends who thinking of doing the same thing.

An unsettling reminder that anything can happen anytime.

I've read on here that some Kroger locations have actual security guards (as in, in addition to Loss Prevention, which doesn't really count, IMO). For those of you that work at such stores, are the security guards armed with guns? At the three Kroger stores I've worked at, none have had security guards. 

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I've read on here that some Kroger locations have actual security guards (as in, in addition to Loss Prevention, which doesn't really count, IMO). For those of you that work at such stores, are the security guards armed with guns? At the three Kroger stores I've worked at, none have had security guards. 

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 Our store has 3 or 4 regular security guards on rotation every week. I think they're from a private company. Maximum, 2, sometimes 3 guards at one time. They're armed with the basic stuff, handcuffs, a taser, an actual gun, bullet proof vest, etc.

Sometimes they have an actual police officer about once a week.

The sad thing is that any of this could happen anywhere, whether at a political rally, the local Trader Joe's, while driving on the freeway or running in a marathon, in schools, in churches, in nightclubs, in cafes, at concerts, etc. These are tragic times that we live in, my friends...And yes, tragedies did happen in all of those places...

Still, the fact that it was at a Kroger this time is particularly unsettling...

It'll be interesting to find out what the motive was, IF there even was one...

This guy could have just been a deranged individual, which brings to the forefront the issue of mental health once again...

I guess we'll have to stay tuned...

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And yet, the more these shootings go on, the more the libs keep screaming for gun control. F U C K that, people need to arm themselves to the teeth, the police are obviously useless to us 

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 This is very true. Any one who shoots some one and commits a senseless murder should be put to death.

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We actually had a threat emailed to my store manager a while back ago. As far as i know it was kept quiet. We had to watch an active shooter preparedness video afterwards and everything. The night i heard about the threat i was closing, and i was freaked out the whole time. All sorts of crazy images went through my head, the thought of me and a coworker of mine getting shot in the back while running towards the produce doors was what i kept thinking of... :( i had a terrible imagination that night.

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 Thats interesting. We had to watch it too, we must be relatively close to eachother.

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We actually had a threat emailed to my store manager a while back ago. As far as i know it was kept quiet. We had to watch an active shooter preparedness video afterwards and everything. The night i heard about the threat i was closing, and i was freaked out the whole time. All sorts of crazy images went through my head, the thought of me and a coworker of mine getting shot in the back while running towards the produce doors was what i kept thinking of... :( i had a terrible imagination that night.

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 They are making all Kroger employees watch this video. Most people are just laughing it off and rolling their eyes about having to watch it. After I got done watching it I am constantly looking at people and seeing if they look suspicious or not. Now hearing that this has happened at a Kroger, it has me really worried. 

Shouldn't all stores have security. I know its expensive to have it in every store but in this day of age one would think Kroger would want security in all stores. I guess associates and customers just aren't valuable as the execs in Cincinnati and Louisville. I've been to louisville division office and they have security measures at their building. Hell I think u need a badge just to gain entrance into the office. Im just glad that they are safe.

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Don't want to turn this into a gun rights vs. guncontrol debate,but blahblahblahblahblahblahblah..........

 

You don't want guns, don't have em. But try coming after mine? I'll consider you no different than any other scum bag seeking to do me or my loved ones harm, and I will end you.

Still 'don't want to make a control debate'? 

 

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The solution isn't to arm everyone or ban all guns. You chose not to quote that part of my post. 

Also, if you read the first link in the OP's post, you will read that: an unnamed armed citizen in the parking lot exchanged gunfire with the suspect, police said, but neither was struck. So you can have an exchange of gunfire in a parking lot with stray bullets going in multiple directions and the end result could potentially be more innocent people getting injured/killed. Thus an armed population comes with its own dangers and risks. Again though, in no way do I support or advocate the banning of all guns, but to ignore the problem that exists jeopardizes lives.

And you sound like a fag hag.

And f u c k you, dood 

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Don't want to turn this into a gun rights vs. guncontrol debate,but blahblahblahblahblahblahblah..........

 

You don't want guns, don't have em. But try coming after mine? I'll consider you no different than any other scum bag seeking to do me or my loved ones harm, and I will end you.

Still 'don't want to make a control debate'? 

 

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 You sound like a fine, sane example of someone with a gun. Can't even have a discussion without you threatening someone. Hmm. 

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 I wouldn't call that a threat but rather a fact. I agree with that anom if any one gets any thoughts of doing any harm to me or my loved ones as well then that person better enjoy those lasts few breaths before I shoot them dead.

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 Nothing in the post anon was responding to was a thought of doing someone harm. 

we had a shooting in our store about a year ago. A guy was on drugs and wanted he cell phone of a customer. The guy and the druggie got into it. the druggie got the gun from the owner and killed him with his own gun. It happened in years dairy dept.   You think this would never happen in your store then it does. 

Kentucky Kroger Shootings Investigated as "Possible Hate Crime"

Something about the suspect sounds off...Both victims were black...Before going to the grocery store, the suspect tried to enter a black church...When confronted by a white guy in the parking lot with a gun, the suspect begs for the white guy not to shoot him..."Whites don't kill whites", he is purported to have said...Like I said, something seems very OFF about this guy...I guess we'll have to stay tuned...

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Kentucky Kroger Shootings Investigated as "Possible Hate Crime"

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 I don't like the term, "Hate crime".   It's discriminatory.  It makes it sound like one victim of a crime is more important than another victim of the same crime.  Also, you can't legislate people's feelings and tell them they're not allowed to feel a certain way about somebody.  The punishment should be based on the crime, not on who the victim is. 

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 When they say "hate crime" they actually mean "racially motivated" crime and in this case it very well might be. The hate crime allegation is an additional charge on top of the two counts of murder. It just means that he will be sent to jail longer which is probably a good thing, imo.

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 Call it what you want, but it's still discriminatory.  Also, once again you can't legislate people's feelings and tell them they can't hate.  You can legislate their actions but that's it.  They may have hate crime laws but  I think there's eventually going to be some backlash against them.

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Kentucky Kroger Shootings Investigated as "Possible Hate Crime"

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 I don't like the term, "Hate crime".   It's discriminatory.  It makes it sound like one victim of a crime is more important than another victim of the same crime.  Also, you can't legislate people's feelings and tell them they're not allowed to feel a certain way about somebody.  The punishment should be based on the crime, not on who the victim is. 

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 When they say "hate crime" they actually mean "racially motivated" crime and in this case it very well might be. The hate crime allegation is an additional charge on top of the two counts of murder. It just means that he will be sent to jail longer which is probably a good thing, imo.

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 Call it what you want, but it's still discriminatory.  Also, once again you can't legislate people's feelings and tell them they can't hate.  You can legislate their actions but that's it.  They may have hate crime laws but  I think there's eventually going to be some backlash against them.

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You're right that we can't, and shouldn't, legislate people's feelings & thoughts. The First Amendment protects all speech, including anything you or I deem as hate speech. Unfortunately though, some people use that speech to incite hate that leads to actual physical violence. That's where the problems start, and that's part of the reason hate crime laws exist. We can't and shouldn't have people targeting other people because of skin color or religion or sexual orientation or anything like that. Those are senseless crimes versus crimes that are motivated by, say, theft. Bottom line is, you want to be happy, right? Then pursue your happiness, and let others pursue their own happiness.

On the subject of shootings at Kroger stores, there's really not anything Kroger as a company can do to prevent something like this. Even round the clock security. And even if you do have security from open to close, how many security guards would it take to ensure a safe environment? Even Signature stores alone can be too big for one security guard, and the Marketplaces? You'd need multiple security guards to cover all that ground.