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These radio's they sell them but it said's they are to be used by people who know what to do. And I pretty much know the law and they are legal as long as I keep them on FRS channels.  


 Incorrect actually, they are Part 90 based radios and are not type accepted for Parts 95 and 97. Read up a little more on the actual regulation and you'd know that because the radios are frequency programmable and have a higher power setting then is allowed by both Parts regulations for equipment acceptance and emission certifications. Either way, illegal all around. And the FCC didn't care that they were made "legal" as the FCC destroyed them anyway for being outside of compliance with regulation. If it has an antenna that can be changed, has more then 0.5W power output on any frs channel, and is frequency programmable with a keypad / pc vs being hard coded at the factory so nothing can be changed to alter that by an end user, it is illegal. End of story, just a little education is all



-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 15th of July 2019 02:29:37 PM

 

 

 OK UC151 I have misunderstood the rules on FRS I thought some channels were higher power. I better reprogram mine LOL. I took my walkie Talkie that has 16 Channels I programmed them for FRS. But last 2 channels I programmed the frequency for our radios. I could hear the store radio's on mine but the store radio could not hear mine. So it is the codes with my software I could find the code but I am not I will just use for FRS around my house



-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 06:41:36 AM

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i386 wrote:

In reply to.

UC151 wrote:


i386 wrote

 

These radio's they sell them but it said's they are to be used by people who know what to do. And I pretty much know the law and they are legal as long as I keep them on FRS channels.  


 Incorrect actually, they are Part 90 based radios and are not type accepted for Parts 95 and 97. Read up a little more on the actual regulation and you'd know that because the radios are frequency programmable and have a higher power setting then is allowed by both Parts regulations for equipment acceptance and emission certifications. Either way, illegal all around. And the FCC didn't care that they were made "legal" as the FCC destroyed them anyway for being outside of compliance with regulation. If it has an antenna that can be changed, has more then 0.5W power output on any frs channel, and is frequency programmable with a keypad / pc vs being hard coded at the factory so nothing can be changed to alter that by an end user, it is illegal. End of story, just a little education is all



-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 15th of July 2019 02:29:37 PM

 

 

 OK UC151 I have misunderstood the rules on FRS I thought some channels were higher power. I better reprogram mine LOL. I took my walkie Talkie that has 16 Channels I programmed them for FRS. But last 2 channels I programmed the frequency for our radios. I could hear the store radio's on mine but the store radio could not hear mine. So it is the codes with my software I could find the code but I am not I will just use for FRS around my house



-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 06:41:36 AM


 so did you do it? im curious on the reactions from people



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UC151 wrote:


i386 wrote

 

These radio's they sell them but it said's they are to be used by people who know what to do. And I pretty much know the law and they are legal as long as I keep them on FRS channels.  


 Incorrect actually, they are Part 90 based radios and are not type accepted for Parts 95 and 97. Read up a little more on the actual regulation and you'd know that because the radios are frequency programmable and have a higher power setting then is allowed by both Parts regulations for equipment acceptance and emission certifications. Either way, illegal all around. And the FCC didn't care that they were made "legal" as the FCC destroyed them anyway for being outside of compliance with regulation. If it has an antenna that can be changed, has more then 0.5W power output on any frs channel, and is frequency programmable with a keypad / pc vs being hard coded at the factory so nothing can be changed to alter that by an end user, it is illegal. End of story, just a little education is all



-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 15th of July 2019 02:29:37 PM

 

 

 OK UC151 I have misunderstood the rules on FRS I thought some channels were higher power. I better reprogram mine LOL. I took my walkie Talkie that has 16 Channels I programmed them for FRS. But last 2 channels I programmed the frequency for our radios. I could hear the store radio's on mine but the store radio could not hear mine. So it is the codes with my software I could find the code but I am not I will just use for FRS around my house



-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 06:41:36 AM


 so did you do it? im curious on the reactions from people


 No I did not I can only hear the store radio's. The store radio's cannot hear mine because of the CTCSS code. I do not use them much because they are not really legal until I get some license for GMRS Channels. As far as changing the antenna. You can remove the antenna and use an external but I am leaving it alone not using an external. I think as long as I use these around the house I will be OK. I live way out of town and I actually tested the range and it was not even a mile and that was on high. 



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Anonymous wrote:
i386 wrote:

In reply to.

UC151 wrote:


i386 wrote

 

These radio's they sell them but it said's they are to be used by people who know what to do. And I pretty much know the law and they are legal as long as I keep them on FRS channels.  


 Incorrect actually, they are Part 90 based radios and are not type accepted for Parts 95 and 97. Read up a little more on the actual regulation and you'd know that because the radios are frequency programmable and have a higher power setting then is allowed by both Parts regulations for equipment acceptance and emission certifications. Either way, illegal all around. And the FCC didn't care that they were made "legal" as the FCC destroyed them anyway for being outside of compliance with regulation. If it has an antenna that can be changed, has more then 0.5W power output on any frs channel, and is frequency programmable with a keypad / pc vs being hard coded at the factory so nothing can be changed to alter that by an end user, it is illegal. End of story, just a little education is all



-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 15th of July 2019 02:29:37 PM

 

 

 OK UC151 I have misunderstood the rules on FRS I thought some channels were higher power. I better reprogram mine LOL. I took my walkie Talkie that has 16 Channels I programmed them for FRS. But last 2 channels I programmed the frequency for our radios. I could hear the store radio's on mine but the store radio could not hear mine. So it is the codes with my software I could find the code but I am not I will just use for FRS around my house



-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 06:41:36 AM


 so did you do it? im curious on the reactions from people


 No I did not I can only hear the store radio's. The store radio's cannot hear mine because of the CTCSS code. I do not use them much because they are not really legal until I get some license for GMRS Channels. As far as changing the antenna. You can remove the antenna and use an external but I am leaving it alone not using an external. I think as long as I use these around the house I will be OK. I live way out of town and I actually tested the range and it was not even a mile and that was on high. 


 damn thats to bad



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i386 wrote:

In reply to.

UC151 wrote:


i386 wrote

 

These radio's they sell them but it said's they are to be used by people who know what to do. And I pretty much know the law and they are legal as long as I keep them on FRS channels.  


 Incorrect actually, they are Part 90 based radios and are not type accepted for Parts 95 and 97. Read up a little more on the actual regulation and you'd know that because the radios are frequency programmable and have a higher power setting then is allowed by both Parts regulations for equipment acceptance and emission certifications. Either way, illegal all around. And the FCC didn't care that they were made "legal" as the FCC destroyed them anyway for being outside of compliance with regulation. If it has an antenna that can be changed, has more then 0.5W power output on any frs channel, and is frequency programmable with a keypad / pc vs being hard coded at the factory so nothing can be changed to alter that by an end user, it is illegal. End of story, just a little education is all



-- Edited by UC151 on Monday 15th of July 2019 02:29:37 PM

 

 

 OK UC151 I have misunderstood the rules on FRS I thought some channels were higher power. I better reprogram mine LOL. I took my walkie Talkie that has 16 Channels I programmed them for FRS. But last 2 channels I programmed the frequency for our radios. I could hear the store radio's on mine but the store radio could not hear mine. So it is the codes with my software I could find the code but I am not I will just use for FRS around my house



-- Edited by i386 on Sunday 21st of July 2019 06:41:36 AM


 so did you do it? im curious on the reactions from people


 No I did not I can only hear the store radio's. The store radio's cannot hear mine because of the CTCSS code. I do not use them much because they are not really legal until I get some license for GMRS Channels. As far as changing the antenna. You can remove the antenna and use an external but I am leaving it alone not using an external. I think as long as I use these around the house I will be OK. I live way out of town and I actually tested the range and it was not even a mile and that was on high. 


 damn thats to bad


 Oh If I took my laptop to work and hooked the radio's up I have the programming software and it could read the CTCSS codes. But I am not doing that don't want anyone finding out what I am doing. There is one walkie talkie it was dropped. I think it will hear the radio's but will not talk or vice versa it walks but don't talk or talks but don't walk. Anyway I could see if I could fix it maybe it being dropped messed something up and I could reprogram it or maybe not it's probably shot. 



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Hey I didn't mean anything by it, I just wanted you aware of the risks as yea what happened with my friend was not a pretty sight, at all.

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Hey I didn't mean anything by it, I just wanted you aware of the risks as yea what happened with my friend was not a pretty sight, at all.


 It don't matter the cable I have does not work with the radio's they have there own proprietary cable.



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