I do not trust my store management. One person in particular has both said and done some really shady stuff (including actively breaching the Union contract) and I simply do not trust anything they are saying. I wanted to record a conversation I had with them (audio only) for my protection in case I needed it and they said it's "corporate policy" we can't do that, citing a part of the employee handbook, but it didn't actually say anything about recording this sort of thing. I also know that where I live is one-party consent, so I know I have a legal right to record a conversation I am a part of. I want to verify if others here have similar issues regarding attempts to record things when you don't trust the situation.
I don't trust any time someone tries to say something like this. It tells me they have a reason prevent this, and that reason is almost always that it will be a problem for them because they know what they are doing is wrong.
To me, it sounds like the same things companies try to pull with discussing wages: they don't want you doing it because it can make them look bad. I have had multiple issues with this SM and everyday I am more distrustful of them, I want to hear from others as to how they handle these situations.
With being in the Union you can request that their be another Union Member present for all conversations. Just make it be known, you insist on another member of the Union being present.
I have found that witnesses are never allowed, recording is never allowed, and the person who claims to be "HR" wants you to state that you are neither recording or wearing a wire (and is very reluctant to state own name).
I have found that witnesses are never allowed, recording is never allowed, and the person who claims to be "HR" wants you to state that you are neither recording or wearing a wire (and is very reluctant to state own name).
Witnesses are NEVER allowed: requested that I had union rep there despite what they said. I REFUSED to state, or sign ANYTHING unless my request was granted. End result: angry HR, but they couldnt do anything.
HR wants you to state you are not wearing a wire or recording: secretly recorded anyway EVEN when requested not to when attending s meeting in which I knew would result in unjust discipline. End result: EXTREMELY pissed off HR. but I had union rep there shortly after and it was discovered I was 100%innocent. HT was STILL livid that I did the recording though. Too bad.
I have found that witnesses are never allowed, recording is never allowed, and the person who claims to be "HR" wants you to state that you are neither recording or wearing a wire (and is very reluctant to state own name).
Witnesses are NEVER allowed: requested that I had union rep there despite what they said. I REFUSED to state, or sign ANYTHING unless my request was granted. End result: angry HR, but they couldnt do anything.
HR wants you to state you are not wearing a wire or recording: secretly recorded anyway EVEN when requested not to when attending s meeting in which I knew would result in unjust discipline. End result: EXTREMELY pissed off HR. but I had union rep there shortly after and it was discovered I was 100%innocent. HT was STILL livid that I did the recording though. Too bad.
Does this depend on the store or area? In our store a union steward always sits in on any official conversation that takes place in office between management and employee concerning employees work performance. The employee and union steward have a talk in private before the meeting with store management. I guess I just thought if you were a union store this is what always happened.
It does. At our store we have no union steward. So therefore, if we suspect something foul going on, we have recorded convos with HR if we suspect things will go south and disciplinary action will result. It saved a few innocents from losing their jobs.
