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ON my Night Crew I have Me The Grocery Manager and 1 stocker right now, We have a Truck 5 days a week, Every one is Over 1000 pieces. I through over 300 cases an hour plus we have to face the store. We get this done every night with no overtime.


 


How is your night crew?



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dont work so hard you need a raise once you do something good they count on it then they use u

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and thats why i get promoted so fast, by the time im 30 ill be a store director. Just work as hard as you can no matter what, do what they want, and keep your store in exellent shape. You will fly right through the system so fast, but you people are lazy and dont understand, people will take advantage of you were ever you go in the world, but also can help you.


 



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dont work so hard you need a raise once you do something good they count on it then they use u


i meant i am the Grocery Manager. For me to look good I have to do it, but its better to do all you can and be the best at what you do no matter if you dont like it.

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ON my Night Crew I have Me The Grocery Manager and 1 stocker right now, We have a Truck 5 days a week, Every one is Over 1000 pieces. I through over 300 cases an hour plus we have to face the store. We get this done every night with no overtime.


 


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 300 a Hour? Your joking right? Ive been working stock over a year now and I probably Max out at 75-80/hour and thats if im hauling ass and Ive Never seen anyone run faster then that... We are talking about Cases right?  Boxes with Items in them? You take the items out and put them on the shelves? Or are you talking about 300 Items? Not to mention that the kroger case "goals" are only 55 cases a hour so if your somehow running Three Hundred  in just One hour... Do you have a big S on your shirt or some kind of super powers that let you, a mere mortal, pass into this.. this.. Warp speed magical super stocker dimention or is it just Speed and Meth?


 Whatever it is... Share?



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300 cases an hour? That's utterly inhuman. That's something like putting one piece on the shelf each second, not to mention the time it takes to open the boxes, etc. I raise the bull****e flag on this one.

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ON my Night Crew I have Me The Grocery Manager and 1 stocker right now, We have a Truck 5 days a week, Every one is Over 1000 pieces. I through over 300 cases an hour plus we have to face the store. We get this done every night with no overtime.


 


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 300 a Hour? Your joking right? Ive been working stock over a year now and I probably Max out at 75-80/hour and thats if im hauling ass and Ive Never seen anyone run faster then that... We are talking about Cases right?  Boxes with Items in them? You take the items out and put them on the shelves? Or are you talking about 300 Items? Not to mention that the kroger case "goals" are only 55 cases a hour so if your somehow running Three Hundred  in just One hour... Do you have a big S on your shirt or some kind of super powers that let you, a mere mortal, pass into this.. this.. Warp speed magical super stocker dimention or is it just Speed and Meth?


 Whatever it is... Share?


Yes 300 cases not pieces WHOLE cases, its not hard at all, just have to be quick and have fast hands and know where exaclty everything goes in the store, IM the grocery manager and i have another stocker who does 300 cases also, but after your done you do feel like you just ran a marathon so its real hard to through 600 cases in 2 hours.






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hiram wrote:


300 cases an hour? That's utterly inhuman. That's something like putting one piece on the shelf each second, not to mention the time it takes to open the boxes, etc. I raise the bull****e flag on this one.


its doesnt even take a secoung to open a case, its true i do 300 cases an hour, if you believe it or not, im just that damn could, its not like, im not dead tired after that hour, but its possible and good exercise.

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you probally only sell one product

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  So,  most cases are packed 4, 6, 12 and 24 right?  So lets say on Average its 12 items per case..  300 x 12 = 3600  Ok now lets see..  Seconds Per hour.. 60 x 60 = 3600. So to Run 300 cases per hour you are stocking One item per second... But that doesnt account for ALOT of things. Depending on the case it can take a few seconds to open, so lets say two seconds to pick up and open each case.. 300 x 2 = 600. So now your stocking faster then one item per second.


 You said you had around a One-Thousand peice truck a night.. So do you spot One-Thousand cases down before you stock? I don't think so... you more then likely do what everyone does and break them down on carts and skids.. see this is where more time is added.. Because you can't always park a cart or a skid Right next to what your running so that adds moving time between Point A (where the item is) and B (where the item Goes), So theres another two or three Seconds. 300 x 3 = 900 (almost at the 2 items per second mark).


But honestly it all depends on how your doing it. Are you fully removing them from the cardboard or leaving on them in it where you can? Because the only way I can see anyone running somewhere near that is if they are just case cutting everything and throwing it on there. At Kroger though... Your not suppost to do that. If your not then it just doesnt seem possible without alot of drugs and a few more arms.


  Seriously though.. If you can somehow run 300 cases a hour, get someone to video tape it and post it. Then come to my kroger and replace some worthless people and at 300 cases a hour, hell, you can replace me too.



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Hi Just got my hi speed camera so can I come to your store and film this so we can make a traing film to teach others how to do this

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Q: How many words can you spell an hour?

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Q2: And do you know which dorr to go throw when arriving at work?

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C: On a lighter note everyone.... He may be "throwing" cases of Big K. That my friends can be done for the first hour.

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S: I will now register as BSSpotter.

I will pay you,  to come and watch ..... Mr. 300.

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Sounds like BS to me.

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Dunno if I buy 300 per hour... unless it's water or paper.... Ice maybe... I know I've done upwards of 170 per hour when I worked at wally world, and that was canned goods... But even then I would case cut some of the product, so I wasn't taking everything out of the boxes.. Also, god help us all if you were to work a perishable dept. because at 300 cases per hour NOTHING would be rotated. I'm a frozen lead for Kroger now and they have no idea what I'm able to do, so I stick to around 50-60 cases per hour.

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let see 2 people 1000 piece truck and a 300 piece an hour stockin rate for both workers hmmmm with in 2 hours your truck should be done i dont think that it is possible if you really can do it please tell us the drugs you are using and also just to shut us all up please just make a video of 1 isle and post it on youtube and submit the link here

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takes you 6 hours to put your boxes in bailer after 2 hours of getting them off the floor


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Hey fellow Kroger employees. I have been working for King Soopers for 8 almost 9 years. My personal best case throwing is 200 cases in 1 hour 30 mins and thats including picking up boxes in the can isle. My goal was to hit 200 in 1 hour but my store times us throwing cases and picking up boxes. I usually throw more than 100+ cases per hour on a good night. Seems like each year I get faster in throwing my cases. I listen to my ipod so that helps me stay focused on my goal of getting done with my cases within the hour no matter how many cases it maybe. None of my coworkers want to race against me hmmm I wonder why.biggrin

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if you are running 600 cases and hour and your trucks are 1000 cases thats about 1 hour and 45 mins so what are you doing the rest of the night for 7 hours



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I've been in grocery for my whole life. Started in a C-Store, then Whole Foods, and now with QFC, i.e. Kroger. 

300 cases is rather implausible. Certainly not a sustainable speed. A few cases can go to the shelf at less than a second per item. 

Is this store closed at night and no one needs to check, because 300 cases per hour is not feasible then?

My personal best is about 128 per hour, and I was wound up then too, this was after the items were spotted. 

After throwing 300 pieces, what does the store look like? If your store is a variety store, which Kroger is, how do you keep the items already on the shelf from being destroyed as others are being stocked? How many glass bottles break at a second a piece.

300 pieces is a very fast, violent velocity. It cannot be done nightly, it cannot be sustained, it is not likely two people on the same crew are capable of such a feat, plus, if you are union, it is not going to earn you anymore money, so why kill yourself doing so?



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ON my Night Crew I have Me The Grocery Manager and 1 stocker right now, We have a Truck 5 days a week, Every one is Over 1000 pieces. I through over 300 cases an hour plus we have to face the store. We get this done every night with no overtime.

 

How is your night crew?


 Your a ****ing idiot if you tried that even when i worked at wally world and could case cut the best i got was about 125 an hour @ korger am luck if i can get 60 with all of the whole take every little thing out of a box



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Yes 300 cases not pieces WHOLE cases, its not hard at all, just have to be quick and have fast hands and know where exaclty everything goes in the store, IM the grocery manager and i have another stocker who does 300 cases also, but after your done you do feel like you just ran a marathon so its real hard to through 600 cases in 2 hours.



 

 

Yeah were can i get the acid that you take



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I was looking for some industry standards for case per hour, and ran across this site, and this forum.  First of all, my name is Bear (also known as Bill), night crew foreman at store #68 in Thornton at 120th and Colorado.  If you have to get on here (or any forum) as anonymous don't bother. Having said that, whoever got on here and said they can THROW 300 cases and hour, dude, you are full of it.  As to you being a grocery manager?!  If so, it's a good thing you only have one crew member.  Stop pretending and go get a job.  I hear McDonald's in Walmart is hiring. 

Now. For the REAL people on here, any of you who posted that you can THROW  100+ and can prove it, put in your transfer to 68!  I know it's possible, I have one guy who can break one hundred on a good night.  My average is about 85.  The problem is that I have a 70+ year old man on my crew who can't break 30 and is sucking up our hours.  Because of his age,  upper mgmt is reluctant to react (fear of lawsuits).  We average 1100 to 2200 a night with 3 other guys, and between load, repack, facing, unloading produce etc., we are killing ourselves while he throws...an aisle... IS THERE A TRUE INDUSTRY STANDARD? IS THERE A SPAN BETWEEN ENTRY LEVEL AND JOURNEYMAN LEVEL?  If there are any REAL Kroger employees, not Wallyworld wannabes with any answers, I'd appreciate them.  thanks



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i have been told that 60 cases an hour is the standard for night stocking at kroger. does your department do team stocking guides? if so, they show on there how long an aisle is "supposed" to take to stock and condition.

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These guys are counting putting full cases or skids up at one time and not individual cans at a time. Generally, most stockers average between 50 and 60 spotted.



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I agree with you on the speed and what people count as cases. I have been in the business for more than 50 years and watch stockers that claim these amazing speeds. I have found that these stockers that claim over 100 cph usually top out at 80-90 cph. There are three types of stocks. The first is called the traditional stock which is case by case item by item stocking. Stockers usually average between 50 to 60 cases. The second is the warehouse stock that allows stockers to cut the sides of the boxes and stack and go. These stockers have reach up to 300 cph pending on the formate of the store. The third type is a hybrid of both. In the 80's I travel over the country to recruit help for some of the larger storers from smaller chains stores. I witness some of the quickest stockers in the world. I also was a judge for the National Stockers challenge. The sixteen years I was involved in the event there was only three people that ever eclipse 125 cases a hour. Many stockers count stock that is spotted , but not ran on their total. Obviously they should not count towards their total. So, when someone says they can run 150 cases an hour. I would have my reservations. However, back in the mid-1980's I was working with a small chain in Western Central Ohio at a buyers fair ( Buying Convention). The subject of stocking came up in conversation with the ten store managers. Many of theses manager had thirty plus years of experience and had seen many stockers through the years. Five managers brought up the same name (Augie) as the quickest and fastest stocker they had ever seen. A few weeks later, I was given an opportunity to observe him stock a truck. I had never seen a stocker that was so organized and systematic. He was always thinking ahead the case he was going to stock next. He was truly more like a machine. His first hour he ran in access of 160 cases. While most stockers slow down in the second hour and gradually lose speed. I watch him maintain his speed in the second hour and the third hour went over 180 cases. Afterwards, I had an opportunity to speak with him to get mindset and what separates him from all other stockers. He viewed ever case as a race and not the entire truck. Also, he claimed that stockers fail to hustle between cases and that he picks up extra time by hurrying to the next case. He claimed to reach over 200 cases and hour a couple of time, but was most proud for running 708 cases with cardboard in 8hrs off of carts. I believe people could reach those speeds, because I have witnessed it. However, they are rare and only come along once in a while.



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and thats why i get promoted so fast, by the time im 30 ill be a store director. Just work as hard as you can no matter what, do what they want, and keep your store in exellent shape. You will fly right through the system so fast, but you people are lazy and dont understand, people will take advantage of you were ever you go in the world, but also can help you.

 


 Don't count on it. If you're good you may be too good. In the end they'll use you up and keep you hopeful that you'll be a store director.  I knew a guy that they kept telling him hes going to be a comanager. It took him like a year to finally get it and thats because some markets were suffering.



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Lmao most of this thread is bull**** first of all these case counts are impossible. 300 cases an hour hmmmm??!!! Bull**** average is supposed to be 60 that means you throw 1 case per minitue. In that min you have to break/cut open the cardboard box take out the 6-24 pieces in the box rotate the items on the shelf to the right and stock those in the correct tage. So 300 cases an hour means you are like throwing 1 piece per second ready set go 1 2 3 4 5 6  7 8  9 10. Try and type that now imagine you doing all of what i said each time you hit the next number thats impossible. 80 pieces means your an animal i get 80 cases an hour average doing all of that. I rock climber a marathon runner a person who has trained with athletes that compete in powerlifting and strong mans. I rarely meet people who are that athletic and in job where you have to be active no i say its impossible. On a side not i would like to know what your thoughts are on having your crew case counted and timed every freight night. We have that and everyone of our crew members argue with each other now we try to rip out each others throats. We are constantly sweating because its like being evaluated everyday and in job where you only see like 6 people a day and have noone else to maintain your sanity is not advisable. I will be quitting freight crews because of this.



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somebody said 55 cases an hour??? i come in do aisle 7 bakeing goods,salad dressing for my store i always have alot for my aisle not sure how many cases but i would bet alot since most if not all my boxes are small ones 3 floats...... 2 pallets............ takes me about 6 hours to just do that aisle alone then i have to L-block the whole aisle when done another 45 min..........then i do aisle 5 coffee aisle i finish around 7:30 each day......... in frozen food tonight my 4th time doing it i know for a fact it took me a whole 8 hour shift to go through 235ish boxes of frozen food which is like 29 boxes per hour i was told kroger expects atleast 35 an hour this guys talking bout 50???



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300? LOL !!!!! if anyone believes that, then I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell them. ROFL !!

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I through 80-90 an hr in frozen, I know this isnt record setting.  The biggest key i know of is to organize properly to limit time



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ok people I dont like to pick on stupidity but the word is ...

 

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Oh My Lard! Oops! I meant Lord! Our night crew sometimes consists of just two peeps. Imagine the efen OT? and yet the rest of us are cut down from 40 to 24 hours a week. What's wrong with this picture? Should I move to nights? Heck, that's where the hours seem to be. What do y'all think?

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I spent 7 years in the grocery industry, before cutting back to part-time. I now spend most of my week working as a commercial electrician (truly great work), but still hold on to my job at Haggens because, well, 20 bucks an hour to throw groceries on the shelf and write orders is pretty damn good, and the health insurance is fantastic.

The standard throw time off the floor for Haggens is 85 cases per hour (75 per hour off u-boats), mostly hand stacking and some case cutting. This can be done working at a moderate pace if the thrower truly knows how to work efficiently. Do everything in as few steps as possible, and this shouldn't be hard.

To you union guys who supposedly throw 300 cases an hour, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE? Working hard on that nonexisting performance pay at the end of the year? I use to be like that. I'd bust my ass to throw 120 cases an hour every night as a night crew lead, and got some of my LESS EXPERIENCED crew members (the vets already knew better) to do the same as well. WHAT HAPPENED? It didnt take long for upper management to keep adding to our responsibilities while simultaneously cutting our department hours nearly in half. Some guys were even laid off. We were working harder and getting paid less the whole time.

The fact is, any half wit can throw over 100 an hour as long as he/she has the gumption to do so. If your union, your all getting paid the same, you get your raises based on hours logged, and your given hours based on seniority. Managers are not chosen by how fast they are, they're chosen based on work ethic (standard is plenty), brain power and PERSONALITY.   There's absolutely no reason to break bench mark.

Do what's expected of you production wise (in the smartest way possible) and nothing more. Pride yourself in doing nice work, become an ordering expert, have a level headed personality that can manage any kind of person, and always be thinking towards cordinateing your department to run smoothly. You'll work your way up the ranks real quick. I started as a night stocker, became a dairy manager, moved up to night crew lead, got promoted to grocery manager with alot talk going around that I would be a store manager some day. Once I was there, I realized I hated the industry, dropped down to night crew lead, dropped down to dairy manager, now I just back the dairy manager on his nights off.  I have a good paying, easy side job, and I know Haggens will take me back with open arms if I need something to fall back on.

Bottom line, its a good job. Just dont expect good things to happen when you put too much attention on your throw time. It's not crucial to your career at all.



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Ok take it from a guy whos done this for 14 years of nights. 90 cases an hour is ok 120 is the standard if you want the hours! An over that amount how often do you get weekends off? I always got them off why??? Because I pissed off out stocked and out sold all other departments and did not give a hoot! 228 cases an hour will get you at least 14 an hour to 16 an hour if you think you can hang!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anyone stocking more than 50 cases per hour is doing lousy work..

nothing rotated......................

The only thing Kroger is about is GREED!

Look at the CEOS 66% raise last year...

Getting it by overworking employees...go ahead stock your ass off for nothing.....

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2012/05/11/kroger-gives-ceo-a-66-raise.html

 



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WOW! I never realized how much of a spectrum stocking could have! Let me help clear up some of the myths and truths about stocking. Before we start arguing about whether 300 cases per hour is possible as either one time or standard hourly production rates lets get some more information first. Someone posted there are three kinds of stocking, by case, warehouse and hybrid... This was the best attempt at understanding what everyone is missing and trying to form a good view of any standard but this is still lacking on a HUGE SCALE! There are hundreds of types of stocking maybe even more! If you want to categorize or group them into as few groups as possible then fair enough, you are comfortable with those 3 and it works for you and your environment. It does in no way work for me or my invironment. Since this is kroger or grocery type stocking then we can eliminate alot ot stocking types, like poundage, tonage or units and we can all get on the "cases" concept. We could use piece or carton but lets use "cases". First not all "cases" have a quantity of 24 units some "cases" are only one unit and some might have more than 24 like ammunition etc.. Not every case has to be packed out meaning all of its units removed from the case and displayed. So long story short there is an inifnite amouunt of possible combinations of how to stock even "cases". That being said lets examine a few typical stocking routines and see how likely 300 cases in one hour is.

First some math. 300 cases @ 1 unit per case is 300 units or pieces x 8 hours is 2400 pieces. 300 cases @ 24 units per case is 7200 pieces x 8 hours is 57,600 pieces. So depending on how your company records its stock you have any where from 2400-57,600 piece trucks. LOL sorry but even at 300 cases @ 1 unit x 8 = 2400 piece truck for one person is almost laughable. Ok so in short your average work load could be 2400 ("cases", pieces, cartons, choice of term) up to 57,600 ("cases", pieces, cartons choice of term). No matter how you choose you are saying you have 300 packages per hour x 8 hours which is 2400 packages that you actually put your hands on and stock. Those packages can contain from 1-24 pieces making your total work load volume equal to 2400-57,600 pieces that you potentially physically put your hands on and stock. Lets make it simple!

Simple is to just go with 2400 physical packages each with 24 individual units of product for a total piece count of 57,600. Now lets look at how long to stock either the 300 cases per hour or 2400 pieces per hour rate. We could stack soda 5 cases per layer, 10 layers high for 50 cases per pallet. 2400/50 = 48 pallets. Average 48 foot truck can hold 24 skids x two layers = 48 skids PERFECT! Ok lets unload the truck and stage the pallets and start unstacking the original pallets and restacking them onto new pallets, I guess. So basically we would be restacking 6 pallets of soda per hour! Is this possible? Or reasonable?

Some trucks are bigger than others but 2400 cases of soda is a decent perspective and in the case of 300 cases per hour your basically packing out 1 entire truck delivery solo. It doesnt matter if you go with cases or pieces in this example as your doing either at the same time. One case being 24 pieces. Ok what if you have to take every single can out of the case and place it on a shelf for display like for cans of vegetables. Considering you can stack cases of soda 5 at a time to get a higher case count per hour, its much more difficult to do when stocking the shelf. But there are ways! In some instances you can stack two cases and slide it onto a shelf and just remove the front edge of the display carton. Sometimes you can stack as high as 5 cases if its an empty bottom shelf. So in short there are a lot of ways to get the case count per hour higher! This is where almost eveyone falls out of the norm and arguments start to flare up. Because, some organizations pass on these ways to raise case count in a journeyman-apprentice or lead-associate professional way and other organizations have a "its common sense" approach. There is nothing common sense about it and if you don't share each and every trick of the trade with your apprentice or associate they will always be lacking! For those who ask, search and find thier own ways GREAT! But even you are lacking! If you don't share with others and compare the differences you simply will not know whats missing. You might be able to throw 300 cases an hour? Could you throw more if you spent a couple months working with "Augie" and several other masters of the trade and share all of the little tricks you found to improve your case count. I bet you already have to achieve 300 cases an hour or you could double the 300 if you desired.

Ok so the answer, is 300 cases an hour even possible!! YES IT IS!!! Alot of vendors like coke and pepsi have people who throw 300 cases an hour 8-10 hours a day for an intire career! Every district of wal mart/sams club and even kroger have that one guy who can do it! Dont leave retail, If you can't invision the possibility of 300 cases an hour! Because there are a lot of other industries that are even more demanding! Try throwing slabs of granite! Or bricks! Or bags of cement! 300 is very possible the real question is SHOULD YOU DO IT!!!!

If you can find ways to stack 2-5 cases in one shot then by all means go for it! If you simpply can't figure out how to double or tripple your case count then ASK! If in the end it seems like you simple have to race the whole 8 hours, then your going to have to race. You will sweat and be tired and it will take you years to double and tripple your case count, sucks to be you. Can you find a way to enjoy the labor for the amount your getting paid? Can you negotiate the amount of money you need to get the case counts the employer needs? Can you find a better alternative? Its all on you... But if your going to tell people its not possible, or if your going to have the mentality that your worked like a dog or slave then you need to find another job. Is 300 cases an hour possible? Show me the money! and I will show you 300 cases an hour of fully stocked to perfection merchandise, hell I willl even clean, condition the aisles and even mop the floors! What can a human do in an hour? Wrong question, how much are you going to pay me for that hour? 8.00 maybe 16.00 how about 24.00 an hr ok at 24.00 an hour we can negotiate! LOL it was fun hoped I could help someone... Next topic! Pay(should)=Labor



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Pay(should)=Labor but it don't, so why kill yourself over it

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